tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post3218476623879372939..comments2023-10-05T10:13:55.217-05:00Comments on The Legion Omnicom: New team: Manapul, Livesay, and.... Shooter?Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-68683660886069092772007-08-21T19:18:00.000-05:002007-08-21T19:18:00.000-05:00Oh, and inker John Livesay has clarified that the ...Oh, and inker John Livesay <A HREF="http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1141751&postcount=22" REL="nofollow">has clarified</A> that the book he did with Shooter was "The Seven", which is what Rich says that Shooter left the Legion book for <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2756" REL="nofollow">in April</A>.<BR/><BR/>If that's the only project they have worked on together, well, then it's probably not Shooter on the Legion. Of course, he might be planting a red herring, too. <BR/><BR/>I'm still prepared to eat my words if "Jim" isn't there after Bedard.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-5224238940790149072007-08-21T19:13:00.000-05:002007-08-21T19:13:00.000-05:00I don't know who else is on staff or freelancing a...I don't know who else is on staff or freelancing at DC who would have had first-hand experience with Shooter at Marvel in the 80s. Remember, that was 20 years ago. <BR/><BR/>A couple comments up, I reposted part of an interview that Shooter did that would explain why Mike Carlin and Denny O'Neil would be mad. Denny's not there anymore, and Carlin isn't in the position he used to be (which if I recall correctly, was pretty much what DiDio is now).<BR/><BR/>Shooter was rumored to be doing a Legion book this summer, according to "Lying in the Gutters" <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2652" REL="nofollow">last November</A>, though <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2756" REL="nofollow">back in April</A> Rich reported that Shooter took himself off of the job before he got a chance to do anything. Maybe he reconsidered? <BR/><BR/>Carlin <A HREF="http://adventure247.blogspot.com/2006/11/what-if.html" REL="nofollow">is rumored</A> to have killed Shooter's "Last Legion Story" a few years ago, despite Levitz's interest, but now that Levitz is President (not just publisher) and Carlin isn't as in charge as much, maybe the atmosphere has cleared a bit?Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-81804745989243479072007-08-21T17:52:00.000-05:002007-08-21T17:52:00.000-05:00And, of course, Shooter was meant to be doing a Ko...And, of course, Shooter was meant to be doing a Korvac sequel for Marvel (where he would have killed off Nova...) - which didn't happen, reportedly because a significant number of people threatened to quit if he found gainful employment there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-62888814232144189772007-08-21T05:45:00.000-05:002007-08-21T05:45:00.000-05:00Starlin or Shooter? Cool.Starlin or Shooter? Cool.MaGnUshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06351888054411049033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-56167913666933674892007-08-20T19:42:00.000-05:002007-08-20T19:42:00.000-05:00I sent a note to Rich last week and asked if he ha...I sent a note to Rich last week and asked if he had heard anything. He replied that no, he had not heard anything new about it. I recommended it be an "amber".Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-83676857749622901022007-08-20T19:17:00.000-05:002007-08-20T19:17:00.000-05:00So, did you send a note to Rich Johnston or does h...So, did you send a note to <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13" REL="nofollow">Rich Johnston</A> or does he actually read The Omnicom?Garth Ranzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506073900672489918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-7742040968556108912007-08-16T21:18:00.000-05:002007-08-16T21:18:00.000-05:00On the Baltimore Con site, there's also Jim Calafi...On the Baltimore Con site, there's also Jim Calafiore, Jimmy Gownley, James Jean, and Jimmy Palmiotti, (in addition to Jims Lee, Starlin, and Shooter).Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-66612352209506590552007-08-16T20:57:00.000-05:002007-08-16T20:57:00.000-05:00I'm somewhat taken with the idea of its being Ster...I'm somewhat taken with the idea of its being Steranko. It would certainly be news.<BR/><BR/>Or what about someone from outside comics? Someone like--(casts around for someone famous named Jim)--James Cameron?Matthew Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007497367844755093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-33904259985781041172007-08-16T11:46:00.000-05:002007-08-16T11:46:00.000-05:00Totally left field but what about Jimmy Palmiotti?...Totally left field but what about Jimmy Palmiotti? He's been doing a lot of writing for DC as of late.Tyler Endicotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10180108949169616611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-75677871735086471332007-08-16T11:32:00.000-05:002007-08-16T11:32:00.000-05:00... and Jim Starlin, too.... and Jim Starlin, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-40505232243994509812007-08-16T11:31:00.000-05:002007-08-16T11:31:00.000-05:00Yep, Shooter is on the Baltimore guest list.http:/...Yep, Shooter is on the Baltimore guest list.<BR/>http://www.comicon.com/baltimore/guests.htm<BR/><BR/>S.H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-76230110523300486502007-08-16T11:17:00.000-05:002007-08-16T11:17:00.000-05:00I heard in chicago there will be an announcement f...I heard in chicago there will be an announcement for the writer at baltimore con..perhaps the guest list on that show would be more "telling"Tyler Endicotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10180108949169616611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-19143927837074162532007-08-16T02:00:00.000-05:002007-08-16T02:00:00.000-05:00Starlin co-wrote and drew the story that ended up ...Starlin co-wrote and drew the story that ended up in S/LSH 250-251, the Brainiac 5/Omega story. It was supposed to have gone in a single giant-size issue, but after the art was complete, someone up the food chain decided it would fit better as two issues (maybe they cancelled the special giant issue or something). Starlin wasn't happy with the result, they had to cut and rearrange the art in order to make it fit right. So because he didn't like the final result, he asked for his name to be removed, and it was replaced with "Steve Apollo".<BR/><BR/>As for Shooter/Carlin, I found <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=185" REL="nofollow">this long interview</A> from 2000 with Shooter at CBR, where he gives his side of the story. At the top is some cool stuff about his first writing stint doing the Legion. Later, while at Marvel:<BR/><BR/><I>MDT: What was it at DC that engenders so much animosity that you couldn't sell the Legion story? Was it Marvel people who defected?<BR/><BR/>JS: It was the fact that there were people there that I booted out..<BR/><BR/>Sometime near the end of my tenure, I fired Denny O'Neill.<BR/><BR/>I also fired Mike Carlin, which they richly deserved.<BR/><BR/>I had begged with Denny to not do what he was doing. And he persisted. The publisher said, "Get rid of this asshole." I said, "Mike, you're right. He's gone." So we fired him and he went over and got a job at DC. Maybe he cleaned up his act and they seem to be happy with him. And he seemed to have went on.<BR/><BR/>I had a similar problem with Mike Carlin not doing his job and ultimately had to let him go. He caught on there and became part of the power structure -- a lot of things are done by committee there -- and if my name is ever mentioned there are people who would actively throw a fit I did anything for DC.<BR/><BR/>[snip Denny O'Neil stuff]<BR/><BR/>And the Carlin thing... I tried to promote from within. He was sort of the senior assistant editor. I thought he was very bright and seemed talented. Every editor always touted their guy. So they would lobby for whatever assistant they had. Carlin was the only guy whose editor ever came to me and said don't hire this guy. He's a loser. The only time any editor -- it was Mark Gruenwald -- who said he's no good, he can't do it. He seemed so bright.<BR/><BR/>Denny is immensely talented. And one of the all-time greats. And when he wants to, he can do a hell of a job. Why he didn't want to around me? I don¹t know.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's my fault. Same with Carlin. I think he is very bright. If he's motivated he does a fine job and probably has done much better at DC than he did with me. Again, maybe the way I did things didn't suit him. They're there, they don't like me. I'll live. </I>Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-81290622887450897052007-08-15T23:13:00.000-05:002007-08-15T23:13:00.000-05:00jim drew wrote:"Given his recent projects at DC, a...jim drew wrote:<BR/>"Given his recent projects at DC, and the claim that Mike Carlin had a sh*tfit and rebelled when Levitz tried to bring Shooter on a few months back, I'm saying it's Starlin."<BR/><BR/>The Carlin sh*fit incident goes back years. Shooter spoke of it without naming names as long ago as the late 1990's (Michael may have a link somewhere). Assuming it was Carlin who rebelled, you have to remember MC was Executive Editor then and had a great deal more clout than he wields today.<BR/><BR/>The more recent Shooter exit rumor a few months ago claimed JS voluntarily bowed out of the Legion to pursue a "Kabbalah" comic book project. The project in question is real although still unpubished, but when asked in June about returning to LSH, all Shooter had to say was "I can neither confirm nor deny.” That was the last of it until Michael's "Jim" article.<BR/><BR/>Didn't Starlin have a Legion sh*fit once as "Steve Apollo"? I confess I'm ignorant about his recent works.<BR/><BR/>S.H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-47390878405195561132007-08-15T21:48:00.000-05:002007-08-15T21:48:00.000-05:00A couple of posts down, on 8/12 I posted that a fr...A couple of posts down, on 8/12 I posted that a friend told me that he recently spoke with someone high up in the DC food chain, and this DC person mentioned in passing that "Jim" would be writing the Legion. It was not a "tee hee, oops, did I say that out loud?" thing like at the conventions, just two people talking and one of them not realizing that a bit of information was just released prematurely.<BR/><BR/>I trust my source and I know who the DC staffer is, and neither have any incentive to lie, prevaricate, dissemble, stretch the truth, or make something up.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if it turns out not to be "Jim", I'll totally disavow what I wrote that my friend told me as the rantings of a deranged lunatic.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-2576006186781923442007-08-15T20:30:00.000-05:002007-08-15T20:30:00.000-05:00where did the "first name is Jim" thing come from?...where did the "first name is Jim" thing come from? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but here.Bryan-Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01186471352854473743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-39729919492529250422007-08-15T19:18:00.000-05:002007-08-15T19:18:00.000-05:00I'm not saying it's not Starlin - I think he'd be ...I'm not saying it's not Starlin - I think he'd be buzzworthy - but here's what he said at <A HREF="http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=125097" REL="nofollow">Chicago</A> (via Newsarama):<BR/><I>What else is coming from the writer? "I'm talking to Dan [Didio] about maybe doing another science fiction thing like Captain Comet. But that's not solid yet -- so that's just speculation. And I'll probably start on another Kid Kosmos after I get done with New Gods," he said. </I>Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-60001391172454059482007-08-15T15:29:00.000-05:002007-08-15T15:29:00.000-05:00Given his recent projects at DC, and the claim tha...Given his recent projects at DC, and the claim that Mike Carlin had a sh*tfit and rebelled when Levitz tried to bring Shooter on a few months back, I'm saying it's Starlin. (Whose has worked on the Legion before, you'll recall.)Jim Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987446462436563788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-48477350959216434032007-08-14T23:42:00.000-05:002007-08-14T23:42:00.000-05:00Thanks for the corrections. I thought it was 38 ba...Thanks for the corrections. I thought it was 38 based on the file name for the Newsarama and Wizard images but missed the actual number in the text.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-21451255995101335642007-08-14T23:07:00.000-05:002007-08-14T23:07:00.000-05:00Over at Legion World, Manupal has said he isn't su...Over at <A HREF="http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004853;p=8#000111" REL="nofollow">Legion World</A>, Manupal has said he isn't sure if the cover is #37 or #38. If he starts with #37 we should see the solicits for it in about five weeks time.Garth Ranzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506073900672489918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-86779212157455177402007-08-14T22:28:00.000-05:002007-08-14T22:28:00.000-05:00That was fast!One correction. Manupal said he's st...That was fast!<BR/><BR/>One correction. Manupal said he's starting with issue #37 not #38.<BR/><BR/>"My run begins with issue #37 which is planned to be released I believe, right around the anniversary of the Legion." -- Newsarama, 08/10/07, http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124788<BR/><BR/>The pencil art at his blog has the descriptive filename "small_losh37_double_cover.jpg"<BR/><BR/>S.H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com