tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post4080534768214356274..comments2023-10-05T10:13:55.217-05:00Comments on The Legion Omnicom: Annotated "Legion of Three Worlds" #4Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-68897255717262960702009-05-20T15:32:40.592-05:002009-05-20T15:32:40.592-05:00Note on page 2 that they cover up the first name o...Note on page 2 that they cover up the first name on the Kent tombstone. We're supposed to think of the most recently deceased Kent family member, Pa Kent.<br /><br />The Prime Trapper reinforces my theory that the real identity of the Trapper changes as the timelines do -- he's also been Cosmic Boy and a Controller, and Brainy and Jeckie would make excellent candidates. The Time Trapper isn't the embodiment of Entropy, he/it's the embodiment of <B>paradox</B>. (Joke: that's two Brainiac 5's int he same room.) And thus there is an innate conflict that the Legion could defeat Prime and yet have him be the Trapper, but that's okay because of his nature.<br /><br />If you look at Kinetix's past, she's all about transformation, having had several major makeovers in the past. (Human, elf, human, comatose, terrorform/hypertaxi, etc.) Of all the dead characters, it's in her nature for being magically absorbed into Mordru to be just her next transformation.Jim Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987446462436563788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-27238039490697223162009-05-17T12:47:00.000-05:002009-05-17T12:47:00.000-05:00when the Trapper said that the Legion had never me...<I>when the Trapper said that the Legion had never met a "real" Superboy or Superman, he was lying</I><BR>or if the trapper really is Superboy Prime, then his definition of a "real" superboy/superman is himself.<br /><br />all the same, theres no way that the time trapper is any single individual.reedsolomon.matr1x at gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833240911634788354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-52877813204573171932009-05-17T12:45:00.000-05:002009-05-17T12:45:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.reedsolomon.matr1x at gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833240911634788354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-60397610014031152232009-05-01T23:13:00.000-05:002009-05-01T23:13:00.000-05:00Tom -- yeah, but Johns keeps making vague referenc...Tom -- yeah, but Johns keeps making vague references to post-COIE storylines. ("Pocket Universes," "Magic Wars," etc.) Johns is talented enough with retcons to make everything from Vol. 3 fit if he wanted to make it fit, no?WhiteDwarfStarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18429495994674889025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-73777322922873047122009-05-01T22:32:00.000-05:002009-05-01T22:32:00.000-05:00Countdown only killed off one of Luornu's two rema...Countdown only killed off one of Luornu's two remaining bodies (and you may recall that Geoff dropped a spoiler about her at the LSH 50th anniversary panel at San Diego, so I'm pretty sure she's both still around and showing up next issue).<br /><br />Also, re all the Levitz issues being canonical, I asked Geoff at said panel where L1 diverged, since it was clear that v4 didn't happen. His response was a somewhat vagued "post-Crisis", but at least implied it was relatively soon after Crisis and not the whole Levitz and/or Giffen v3 run.Tom Gallowaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-16697912339261883422009-05-01T15:32:00.000-05:002009-05-01T15:32:00.000-05:00"Notice that the Conspiracy arc is still canonical..."Notice that the Conspiracy arc is still canonical. That was well after the Crisis issues of LSH v3 (17-18). Time Trapper says that he attempted to remove any true memories of Superboy from the Legion but was not fully successful."<br /><br />Yup. I'm pretty sure this means ALL the Levitz (v. 3) issues of LSH are canonical, with minor alterations (i.e., Pocket Universe Superboy was just a trick; when the Trapper said that the Legion had never met a "real" Superboy or Superman, he was lying).WhiteDwarfStarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18429495994674889025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-72201309678780477892009-05-01T05:28:00.000-05:002009-05-01T05:28:00.000-05:00...and Zoe's probably seeing Gim because he's dead......and Zoe's probably seeing Gim because he's dead and she's about to die.Terence Chuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245769772109010000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-47078303884632835132009-05-01T05:23:00.000-05:002009-05-01T05:23:00.000-05:00... and Supergirl's also not present. Although her...... and Supergirl's also not present. Although her presence in continuity probably only applies to L3.Terence Chuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245769772109010000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-83159017129474930392009-05-01T05:20:00.000-05:002009-05-01T05:20:00.000-05:00And there I was thinking I was just being a punk w...And there I was thinking I was just being a punk when I suggested it was Bart they saved (and not Barry as was being surmised) way back when Lightning Saga was published. <br /><br />Duo Damsel is MIA/dead by the end of Countdown, no?Terence Chuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245769772109010000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-63280164935788470072009-05-01T02:34:00.000-05:002009-05-01T02:34:00.000-05:00I'm so glad I wasn't the only one that caught the ...I'm so glad I wasn't the only one that caught the "clue" about Prime being affected by L3 kryptonite. Of course, now that that Element Lad is dead (meaning there is only ONE E-Lad alive across three legions, which does not make me happy), who knows how important that might be. I guess we're also going to assume that it was L1 Nura's dream that Superboy be revived ("Brainy . . . I saw a vision that the lawsuit with the Siegel estate will settle. They'll need to get Superboy back!"). Interesting read, but it seems a bit anti-climatic since most of the "big" reveals have been some of the work kept secrets in recent comics history.Mike A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18130804182413754566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-40685559175455190622009-04-30T19:03:00.000-05:002009-04-30T19:03:00.000-05:00Murrfox, let's hope that if Kinetix ever comes bac...Murrfox, let's hope that if Kinetix ever comes back...that she gets her original look. I can't help but think that the only reason Kinetix even died in this book was because she looks nearly identical to the L2's Projectra.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-13578361987489956772009-04-30T18:20:00.000-05:002009-04-30T18:20:00.000-05:00Do we know Connor returns to the 21st C - surely h...Do we know Connor returns to the 21st C - surely he is already there (albeit dead) and will therefore provide the LSH with a permanent Superboy in the 31st C?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-48908819778965450812009-04-30T17:10:00.000-05:002009-04-30T17:10:00.000-05:00I was surprised to see Zoe killed off, too, but I ...I was surprised to see Zoe killed off, too, but I figure that if they ever want to bring Kinetix back they've got an easy out. Mysa mentioned that Mordru absorbed her magic energies or something, so that even in death she can't be free... so whip up a doohickie that releases those energies, create something to hold those energies and Kinetix can be back in the land of the living.Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08220614322314619468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-82723059874366037502009-04-30T16:15:00.000-05:002009-04-30T16:15:00.000-05:00Geez Louise -- I shouldn't read these things befor...Geez Louise -- I shouldn't read these things before I get the book.<br /><br />I was just sitting around the other day, trying to think of the weirdest possible twist they could throw into this book before the end -- and the only thing I could dream of would be the resurrection of Conner Kent.<br /><br />Hoooo Boy. So I nailed that one.<br /><br />I thought Cosmic Boy was the Time Trapper. Who else is going to pop out of those robes; Miss Piggy?<br /><br />~~JD~~J.D. Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02476196440393881916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-77184733781207177872009-04-30T16:05:00.000-05:002009-04-30T16:05:00.000-05:00i figure the miracle machine sequence must be from...i figure the miracle machine sequence must be from brainy's past. 'cause tenzil ATE the thing...peter vandenengnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-11224689398512448822009-04-30T12:53:00.000-05:002009-04-30T12:53:00.000-05:00Mike: What a tremendous job! Well done, sir.
Thom...Mike: What a tremendous job! Well done, sir.<br /><br />Thom got his gravedigger job in Justice Society of America Kingdom Come Special: The Kingdom #1 (1/09)<br /><br />Subsequent to that, he appeared in JSA #21 (1/09), JSA #22 (2/09), and JSA #23 (3/09). In #23, Thom's story was dispatched in one panel and an editorial note: "For more on Starman's 'secret mission,' see Final Crisis: LegIon of Three Worlds."<br /><br />Kinetix shouting out “Leviathan” – didn’t the L2 Violet take the name Leviathan (sometimes spelled LeVIathan) in honor of the deceased Gim Allon?<br /><br />@Brainy Pirate: In the panel where Brainy’s torso was exploded, I think that was the Brainiac 5 statue on the Avenue of Heroes, not any real Brainy.<br /><br />@Tom Galloway: re: Superman being overconfident at Conner’s ability to fight Prime. Remember, Brainy said this struggle is as much psychological as physical. Bart and Conner both fought Prime effectively in the past; moreover, they are likely to throw Prime off balance and make him even more irrational – all of which will distract him until Brainy’s next move.Meerkatdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15217892733792461253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-70126143820517149342009-04-30T12:31:00.000-05:002009-04-30T12:31:00.000-05:00"Panel 6: Interestingly, she calls out the name of..."Panel 6: Interestingly, she calls out the name of Leviathan, who was the L2 Gim Allon." <br /><br />I haven't got the issue yet and am naughtily reading the annotations in advance but could she be calling out for LeVIathan? Because Salu Digby/Shrinking Violet sometimes went by that once she got growth powers and she and Kinetix were close.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12711156467087754337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-6962732026702889782009-04-30T10:50:00.000-05:002009-04-30T10:50:00.000-05:00Yeah, it would seem that the Threeboot Legion is f...Yeah, it would seem that the Threeboot Legion is from a world equivalent to the pre-crisis Earth-Prime. It would make sense since the 3boot Legion had comics with Superman/Brainiac/etc. in them.pibegardelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16569603149967157927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-54364618016198226522009-04-30T08:59:00.000-05:002009-04-30T08:59:00.000-05:00Was there a robot Brainy in the room when Bart ret...Was there a robot Brainy in the room when Bart returned? That one panel looks like Brainy's torso exploded, but all three of them are clearly still alive....<br /><br />And if Thom dug up Conner, how/when did he get him to the Fortress Super-Lab to install him in the regenerator?<br /><br />Loved the way Johns "re-united" Dawny and Wildfire at the crucial moment!Brainy Piratehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11211854889809515154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-60867216495496178052009-04-30T05:58:00.000-05:002009-04-30T05:58:00.000-05:00Page 1: That's "Thom Kallor", not Tom. It's also u...Page 1: That's "Thom Kallor", not Tom. It's also unclear 1) why he needed a job as a gravedigger in order to dig up a grave in the middle of the night 2) why Connor is buried there rather than in the established hero cemetery (which, per recent Nightwing issues, had to be moved and guarded due to folk stealing DNA samples from the bodies). Heck, I'm not at all sure why Brainy'd pick someone who'd become mentally ill in the 21st century for this mission.<br /><br />P.3: Are you sure that's L2 Umbra and not L1 Shady? She's wearing an "S" cape clasp.<br /><br />P.5, panel 9: "Impuke" is an insult based on Bart's original superhero name "Impulse".<br /><br />P.6 Missing L1 Legionnaires: Element Lad, Bouncing Boy, Single Girl (or whatever Luornu's going by now), Matter-Eater Lad, Sensor Girl, Tyroc, Magnetic Kid (unclear; he was killed at the end of the pre-five year gap run, but it's clear that the L1 Legion seen here diverged before that happened. However, he may have also been killed in the current L1 timeline as no mention's been made of him and Cos should know where to find his kid brother), Quislet (presumably still back in its home dimension). The Subs haven't shown up yet either.<br /><br />In panel 8, word balloon 3 is presumably by L3 Brainy, who's being written as kneejerk anti-adult rather than being more Machiavellian and ego driven than the other two Brainy's (my opinion anyway).<br /><br />P. 10 panel 2: Not a Crisis flashback, but monitoring the "current" 31st century battle as Prime gloats that Superman and the L1 founders (the "big guns") are off the battlefield. Note his torn costume, in sync with how it appears on P. 9.<br /><br />P. 12, panel 3: The other question is why Kinetix is using magic. While she had some knowledge of magic, her initial powerset was telekinesis due to exposure to a magical artifact. Her current appearance was a result of "hypertaxis" and while her powers were vague, they weren't magic vis a vis spellcasting as she appears to be doing here. I suspect she was killed off because, at least in my opinion, her transformation was a bad idea and wrecked the character. Me, I would've changed her back somehow and kept using her.<br /><br />P. 13. If they're counting Myg as a Legionnaire, I guess Comet Queen is also a missing L1 Legionnaire (hopefully coming back only to be killed quickly; never liked the character).<br /><br />P. 14. I wonder if L3 E-Lad making Kryptonite that hurts Prime means that the L3 Legion is from Earth-Prime? Remember, Prime wants Earth-Prime back...<br /><br />P. 28. Superman's a bit overconfident vis a vis Conner's return. Prime is pre-Crisis Earth-1 Kryptonian power level, *way* beyond Conner's power level. He'll freak Prime out for a moment, but really doesn't stand a chance against him and isn't a significant addition to the 3Legion powerset.<br /><br />Note that the whole bit about needing to find some way to redeem Prime seems to have been forgotten, even by Superman.Tom Gallowaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18787738.post-82946123295662999302009-04-30T03:58:00.000-05:002009-04-30T03:58:00.000-05:00I wonder what caused them to change the front cove...I wonder what caused them to change the front cover from 3 B5's to B5' L1 + K.Flash?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com