Sunday, August 11, 2024

New reprint collections predictions

In April 2021, I made a bold prediction on what I thought DC was going to reprint in 2022, given that we had just found out that "Before the Darkness" vol 2 was on the schedule. I looked at the tea leaves and made what I thought were good, sound prognostications on what I thought the most likely reprint collections would be given DC's reprinting history of Legion volumes to that point. I figured we were good for any 3 of the 5. Over three years later, I only got two out of five right: the second volume of the Five Years Later Omnibus, and the Great Darkness re-release.

My original predictions from 2021:

  • Bronze Age Omnibus vol 1 (new)
  • Great Darkness Saga Deluxe Edition (re-release)
  • Five Years Later Omnibus vol 2 (new)
  • Legionnaires [Reboot] vol 3 (new)
  • Legion Worlds (new)

Well, we recently learned that "DC Finest: Legion of Super-Heroes: Zap Goes the Legion" will be coming out in December 2024, reprinting the end of the Adventure run, the Action run, and the first part of the Superboy run (Adventure 374-380, Action 378-392, and the Legion stories in Superboy 172-203). Don't know why they did the Adventure and Action runs again, seeing as how they this book now contains more than half of the Silver Age Omnibus vol 3 (Adventure 361-380 and Action 378-392) or nearly all of Archives vol 9 (Adventure 377-380 and Action 378-392). If they had done a pure Bronze Age Omnibus vol 1 instead, with 544 pages in this Zap volume, they could have reprinted Superboy 172-219 instead. I should try to take partial credit for the Zap book covering some of the Bronze Age, but I'm going to hold out for a full-up Bronze Age Omnibus vol 1.

And in 2025 we're finally getting a full reprint of the Great Darkness Saga Deluxe Edition, PLUS a surprise re-release of The Curse Deluxe Edition, which I would have put on my new list if it weren't already coming out.
 

I tried to use historical data to predict how many new reprint volumes will come out in 2025 and 2026. Let's dive into things and see what we can come up with. DC has put out the following Legion reprint collections over the last few years:
  • 4 in 2017: 1 Silver Age, 1 Bronze Age, 2 Reboot
  • 5 in 2018: 2 Silver Age, 1 Bronze Age, 2 Reboot
  • 0 in 2019
  • 3 in 2020: 1 Silver Age, 1 5YL, 1 Rebirth
  • 3 in 2021: 2 Bronze Age, 1 Rebirth 
  • 4 in 2022: 2 Bronze Age, 1 5YL, 1 Rebirth
  • 0 in 2023
  • 2 in 2024: 1 Silver Age/Bronze Age, 1 Bronze Age
  • 3 in 2025: 1 Bronze Age, 1 5YL, 1 Retroboot

Given that, I'd expect maybe 2025 is done and we should look for 2-3 to come out in 2026. Thoughts:

SILVER AGE
  • The "LSH: The Silver Age Omnibus" line is complete in three volumes, covering Adventure 247 to Action 392. Since the 3 Silver Age Omnibus books came out 2017-2020, I’m not inclined to think that we’ll see another Silver Age non-Omnibus. But then again, 2024 will see "Zap" which is half Silver Age and half Bronze Age, so who can say?
BRONZE AGE (which for the purpose of this discussion I'm saying goes through the end of v2)
  • I still expect the Bronze Age Omnibus series to start. The Silver Age books were an average of 630 pages each, meaning that this hypothetical volume 1 would cover Superboy 172-224, which are what's covered in Archives 10-12 (reprinted in 2000, 2002, and 2003). Yes, I know that "Zap" covers the start of the Bronze Age, but that's for the DC Finest line. 
  • Since we will see both "The Great Darkness Saga Deluxe Edition" (392 pages) and "The Curse Deluxe Edition" (522 pages) in 2025, which cover up to the end of v2, that should be it for the Bronze Age non-Omnibus books.
V3/BAXTER RUN + TALES
  • I'm including the first 12 issues of Tales to be in this section since they were published concurrently with the first 12 issues of vol 3. After "The Curse" came "An Eye for an Eye" (2007, LSH v3 1-6) and "The More Things Change" (2009, LSH v3 7-13), but neither contained the "Tales of the LSH" stories that were published concurrently with the first year of v3. I hope to see one volume that includes all of those (LSHv3 1-13, Tales 314-325, and DC Comics Presents 80) plus stories that were not collected earlier (DC Comics Presents 59, DC Sampler 1-3, New Adventures of Superboy 50, and even the random covers from the Adventure Comics digests 491-503 and the Best of DC Digests) - I added them all up and we can do that in about 558 pages total. So let's call this "The Super-Villain War Deluxe Edition". Since it covers up to just before Crisis, it could be considered the end of the Bronze Age, but to me it's post-Bronze but without a good name for an overall title.
FIVE YEARS LATER
  • The 5YL Omnibus vol 2 should get a new re-release given that vol 1 is coming out in 2025.
REBOOT
  • The Reboot had volume 2 last published in 2018, so it's due for the next volume. I estimate there are up to 11 volumes (depending on size) before we hit the Abnett/Lanning run which has already started to get reprinted. The next volume should reprint LSH v4 #74-80 and Legionnaires #31-37 plus the Superboy crossover (maybe more, depending on page count), and continuing the naming for this reprint series as "Legionnaires". These stories have never been collected.
  • The Abnett/Lanning vol 2 reprinted “Legion Lost” in 2018, but there are still 6 issues of Legion Worlds, 38 issues of The Legion, some Secret Files, and some Titans/Legion stories left, which I estimate would take up another 4 volumes. Legion Worlds should be next, as a 6-issue series, unless they want a collected Legion Lost/Legion Worlds for 18 issues.
THREEBOOT
  • Threeboot (LSH v5) was complete in 2007-2009, with volumes published concurrently with the title. We are getting a new release of Legion of Three Worlds Deluxe Edition in 2025.
RETROBOOT
  • The Retroboot was reprinted concurrently with the v6 series in 2008-2011, but only about half of the Adventure series has been reprinted (the Legion Academy stuff has not) and a handful of random stories from various books (about 200 pages worth). Not expecting this anytime soon.
NEW 52
  • New 52 was all reprinted concurrently with the v7 series and Legion Lost in 2012-2015. Not expecting a re-release any time soon.
REBIRTH
  • The 12 issues of the regular series and the JLA/LSH miniseries have already been reprinted so I don't expect anything else any time soon. 

So here are my 4 candidates for reprinting in 2026 (assuming nothing more in 2025). I'd bet on any 2 or 3 of these coming out (listed in chronological order of original printing):

  1. Bronze Age Omnibus vol 1: reprinting Superboy 172-224, last reprinted 2000-2003 in Archives 10-12; the last Silver Age Omnibus volume came out in 2020.
  2. Baxter vol 1: reprinting LSH v3 1-13, Tales 314-325, and lots of extras and one-off stories; the vol 3 books were last reprinted in 2009.
  3. Legionnaires vol 3: reprinting the Reboot from LSH v4 #74-80 and Legionnaires #31-37 plus the Superboy crossover, all of which have never been reprinted; volume 2 came out in 2018.
  4. Legion Worlds: issues 1-6 never reprinted, although solicited but cancelled in 2013; last Abnett/Lanning volume 2 came out in 2018.


Saturday, August 10, 2024

New reprint collections for 2025

Well color me shocked that DC has decided to put out FOUR new Legion reprint collections in 2025! I had despaired of ever getting more, so maybe this is a harbinger of some NEW collections, as these are all (mostly) new editions of previously-released books. Given that DC is returning to its bullet logo later this year, I'd expect all of these (except maybe the first one) to have the bullet instead of this one.

There's one coming out next month, I'm including that one here because I never mentioned it previously when it was announced. But it's a curious one.

Arriving 9/24/24: Legion of Super-Heroes: The Great Darkness Saga. The first edition was published in 1989, with a second edition in 2000 that did not have the fold-out Giffen/Mahlstedt poster. This is the original version, reprinting only the Great Darkness storyline itself from LSHv2 #287, 290-294, and Annual 3. The original included the newly-redrawn version of the story from 287, I suppose to keep the art all Giffen, but I think I heard that they will restore the original version for this volume (or maybe include both). But given the next entry on the list, I'm surprised this one is coming out at all.


Arriving 3/4/25 - Legion of Super-Heroes: The Great Darkness Saga Deluxe Edition (New Edition). This was previously published in 2011. The Deluxe version  reprints LSHv2 #284-296 and Annual 1, meaning it's complete and follows “Before the Darkness vol 2” chronologically. No, I don't know why they are going to have two versions of GDS in print at the same time. 


Arriving 4/15/25 - Legion of Super-Heroes: Five Years Later Omnibus Vol. 1 (New Edition). This was previously published in 2020. There may be some new content in this one, the original was 1413 pages, new is 1425 pages, but it also implies a new edition of Vol. 2 later this year or next year. This reprints LSHv4 #1-39 and Annuals 1-3, plus Adventures of Superman #478 (part of the "Time & Time Again" storyline), the 5-issue Timber Wolf series, and various Legion-related entries from the 1990-92 Who's Who in the DC Universe series.


Arriving 5/6/25 - Superman – Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds: The Deluxe Edition. This was previously published in 2009, under the title of "Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds". This Deluxe version will have lots of extra content, this one is 240 pages vs 160 in the original, but it doesn't say what the new content is that makes this deluxe. I'm hoping it will be lots of Perez stuff (pencils-only version of an issue, sketchbooks, reference material, etc.).


Arriving 5/20/25 - Legion of Super-Heroes: The Curse Deluxe Edition (New Edition). This was previously published in 2011 and reprints LSHv2 #297-313 and Annuals 2-3, closing out the v2 series and ending right before the split to Tales and v3 series. This one surprises me in that it's the next volume in the series after GDS Deluxe, and coming only 2-1/2 months later. I hope that this volume implies that there's a follow-up volume that will finally reprint not only LSHv3 #1-13 (which appeared in "An Eye for an Eye" (2007) and "The More Things Change" (2009) but also Tales of the LSH #314-325, which have never been reprinted and occurred at the same time as v3 #1-12. It should also include DC Comics Presents #80, which took place in between a couple of those v3 issues. (This one is not on Amazon or Penguin yet for some reason, so no cover photo or link, but this screengrab from the Near Mint Condition show on YouTube).



Monday, June 03, 2024

The Reboot Reading Order (part 2)

This one is going to be a work in progress from June 2024 until roughly when the Legionnaires who were trapped in the 20th century make it back home, in LSH v4 #100, when we get to it sometime in late 2025. I'll put in a horizontal line so you can see what's current and what's still to be determined. 

This is the rest of the Reboot Legion following part 1, in publishing order and not necessarily in reading order (yet). There are books in here (e.g., Green Lantern 98-100, Inferno 1-4) that probably fit together back to back instead, but I'll have to figure that out as we go - and figure out where in continuity the non-core books (Starman, Universe Ablaze, etc.) books go. Anything with an asterisk (*) is something published earlier or later that fits the timeline elsewhere.

  1. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #85
  2. Showcase '96 #10
  3. *Final Night Preview #1
    • Published earlier, but this is where it takes place in continuity
  4. Final Night #1
  5. Adventures of Superman #540
    • Final Night crossover
  6. Impulse #19
    • The Legionnaires appear in Impulse's nightmare
  7. Final Night #2
  8. Legionnaires #42
  9. Final Night #3
  10. Flash v2 #119
    • Final Night cameo
  11. Aquaman v5 #26
    • Final Night cameo
  12. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #86
    • Final Night crossover
  13. Takion #6
    • Final Night cameo
  14. Final Night #4
  15. Green Lantern v3 #81
    • Final Night crossover
  16. Legionnaires #43
  17. Showcase '96 #11-12
  18. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #87
  19. * Green Lantern Gallery #1
    • Pinup that takes place during Zero Hour
  20. * Sovereign Seven Annual #2
    • Non-canonical; takes place early in the Reboot chronology
  21. Superman v2 #119
  22. Legionnaires #44
  23. Impulse #21
  24. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #88
  25. Legionnaires #45
  26. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #89
  27. Superman Plus the Legion of Super-Heroes #1
  28. Legionnaires #46
  29. Sovereign Seven Plus #1
  30. Impulse #24
  31. Legionnaires #47
  32. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #91
  33. Impulse #25
  34. Legionnaires #48
  35. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #92
  36. Legionnaires #49
  37. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #93
  38. Legionnaires #50
  39. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #94
  40. Legionnaires #51
  41. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #95
  42. Legionnaires #52
  43. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #96
  44. Supergirl v4 Annual #2
  45. Genesis #1
  46. Genesis #2
  47. Legionnaires #53
  48. Superman v2 #128 
    • Genesis
  49. Genesis #3
  50. Adventures of Superman #551 
    • Genesis
  51. Inferno #1
    • What’s the best place to group these?
  52. Superboy v3 #44
    • Genesis
  53. Genesis #4
  54. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #97
    • Genesis
  55. Superboy and the Ravers #14
    • Genesis
  56. Wonder Woman v2 #126
    • Genesis
  57. Power of Shazam! #32
    • Genesis
  58. Starman v2 #36
  59. Legionnaires #54
  60. Speed Force #1
  61. Superboy v3 #45
  62. Flash Secret Files #1
  63. Inferno #2
  64. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #98
  65. Legionnaires #55
  66. Unlimited Access #1
  67. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #99
  68. Inferno #3
  69. Legionnaires #56
  70. Adventures in the DC Universe #10
  71. Unlimited Access #2
  72. Action Comics v1 #741
  73. Legion of Super-Heroes Secret Files #1
  74. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #100
  75. Inferno #4
  76. Legionnaires #57
  77. Legends of the Legion #1
  78. Teen Titans v2 #17
  79. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #101
  80. Legionnaires #58
  81. Superboy v3 #49
  82. Legends of the Legion #2
  83. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #102
  84. Green Lantern v3 #97
  85. Legionnaires #59
  86. Legends of the Legion #3
  87. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #103
  88. Lobo v2 #50
  89. Green Lantern v3 #98
  90. Legionnaires #60
  91. Legends of the Legion #4
  92. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #104
  93. Green Lantern v3 #99
  94. Legionnaires #61
  95. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #105
  96. Green Lantern v3 #100
  97. Legionnaires #62
  98. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #106
  99. JLA: World Without Grown-Ups #1
  100. Legionnaires #63
  101. Legion: Science Police #1
  102. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #107
  103. Legionnaires #64
  104. Legion: Science Police #2
  105. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #108
  106. Chronos #8
  107. Power of Shazam! #43
  108. Legionnaires #65
  109. Legion: Science Police #3
  110. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #109
  111. Adventure Comics 80-Page Giant #1
  112. DC 1 Million
    • Don’t need to read, but here’s where it fits
  113. Legionnaires #1000000
  114. Legion: Science Police #4
  115. Martian Manhunter v2 #1000000
  116. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #1000000
  117. Chronos #1000000
  118. DC One Million #4
  119. JLA In Crisis Secret Files #1
  120. Superman: Man of Tomorrow #1000000
  121. Legends of the DC Universe 3-D Gallery #1
  122. Power of Shazam! #44
  123. Legionnaires #66
  124. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #110
  125. Starman v2 #49
  126. Legionnaires #67
  127. Flash v2 #144
  128. DCU Holiday Bash #3
  129. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #111
  130. Starman v2 #50
  131. Legionnaires #68
  132. Kingdom #1
    • Needed for Reboot timeline?
  133. Kingdom: Planet Krypton #1
    • Needed for Reboot timeline?
  134. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #112
  135. Kingdom #2
    • Needed for Reboot timeline?
  136. Legionnaires #69
  137. Flash v2 #146
  138. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #113
  139. Impulse: Bart Saves the Universe #1
  140. Legionnaires #70
  141. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #114
  142. Flash 80-Page Giant #2
  143. Legionnaires #71
  144. Flash v2 #148
  145. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #115
  146. Legion of Super-Heroes Secret Files #2
  147. Legionnaires #72
  148. Flash v2 #149
  149. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #116
  150. Legionnaires #73
  151. Flash v2 #150
  152. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #117
  153. Legionnaires #74
  154. JSA Secret Files #1
  155. DC One Million 80-Page Giant #1000000
  156. Superboy v3 #65
  157. JSA #1
  158. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #118
  159. Starman v2 #57
  160. Legionnaires #75
  161. JSA #2
  162. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #119
  163. Martian Manhunter v2 #11
  164. Starman v2 #58
  165. Legionnaires #76
  166. JSA #3
  167. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #120
  168. Starman v2 #59
  169. Legionnaires #77
  170. JSA #4
  171. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #121
  172. Starman v2 #60 
    • last pre-DnA
  173. Legionnaires #78
  174. Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes: Universe Ablaze #1
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  175. Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes: Universe Ablaze #2
  176. Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes: Universe Ablaze #3
  177. Titans/Legion of Super-Heroes: Universe Ablaze #4
  178. Starman v2 #61
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  179. Legends of the DCU 80 Page Giant #2
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  180. Starman v2 #62
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  181. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #122
    • Legion of the Damned
  182. Legionnaires #79
    • Legion of the Damned
  183. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #123
    • Legion of the Damned
  184. Legionnaires #80
    • Legion of the Damned
  185. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #124
    • Widening Rifts
  186. Legionnaires #81
    • Widening Rifts
  187. Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #125
    • Widening Rifts
  188. Legion Lost v1 #1
  189. Legion Lost v1 #2
  190. Legion Lost v1 #3
  191. Legion Lost v1 #4
  192. Legion Lost v1 #5
  193. Legion Lost v1 #6
  194. Legion Lost v1 #7
  195. Legion Lost v1 #8
  196. Legion Lost v1 #9
  197. Legion Lost v1 #10
  198. Legion Lost v1 #11
  199. Hourman #24
    • Where does this fit?
  200. Legion Lost v1 #12
  201. Superman v2 #167
  202. Impulse #74
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  203. Starman v2 #79
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  204. Superman v2 #171
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  205. Starman v2 #80
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  206. JSA Secret Files #2
    • Where do these fit chronologically?
  207. Legion Worlds #1
  208. Legion Worlds #2
  209. Young Justice: Our Worlds At War #1
  210. Legion Worlds #3
  211. Legion Worlds #4
  212. Legion Worlds #5
  213. Legion Worlds #6
  214. Wonder Woman v2 #174
    • ???
  215. Legion, The #1
  216. Legion, The #2
  217. Guide to the DC Universe Secret Files 2001-2002 #2001
  218. Legion, The #3
  219. Legion, The #4
  220. Legion, The #5
  221. Legion, The #6
  222. Legion, The #7
  223. Impulse #86
  224. DC First: Flash/Superman #1
  225. Legion, The #8
  226. Impulse #87
  227. Legion, The #9
  228. Legion, The #10
  229. Legion, The #11
  230. Young Justice v1 #49
  231. Justice League Adventures #11
  232. Legion, The #12
  233. Young Justice v1 #50
  234. Legion, The #13
  235. JSA #42
  236. Legion, The #14
  237. Legion, The #15
  238. Legion, The #16
  239. Supergirl v4 #79
  240. Legion, The #17
  241. Legion, The #18
  242. Legion, The #19
  243. Legion, The #20
  244. Legion, The #21
  245. JSA #50
  246. Legion, The #22
  247. JSA #51
  248. Legion, The #23
  249. Legion, The #24
  250. Legion, The #25
  251. Legion, The #26
  252. Legion Secret Files 3003 #1
  253. Legion, The #27
  254. Legion, The #28
  255. Legion, The #29
  256. Justice League Adventures #28
  257. Legion, The #30
  258. Legion, The #31
  259. Legion, The #32
    • Last DnA issue
  260. Legion, The #33
  261. Legion, The #34
  262. Legion, The #35
  263. Legion, The #36
  264. Legion, The #37
  265. Legion, The #38
  266. Teen Titans v3 #15
  267. Teen Titans v3 #16
  268. Teen Titans/Legion Special #1
    • The end

Friday, May 31, 2024

The Reboot Reading Order (part 1)

I was recently asked to create a Reboot Legion reading order list, to go with my 5YL reading order list. For the most part, you'll just alternate back and forth between "LSH" and "Legionnaires", but there are some odd appearances here and there in other titles (in particular, XS with Impulse and/or Flash, or appearances in Showcase '95 or '96). 

Additionally, there are some published stories that take place out of chronological publishing order - for example, Legionnaires Annual #3 came out after Legionnaires #43 but it takes place chronologically before Legionnaires #35. These stories are marked with an asterisk (*).

  1. LSH v4 #0
  2. * LSH Secret Files #1 (story 1 only)
  3. Legionnaires #0
  4. * LSH v4 Annual #6 (story 1 only)
  5. LSH v4 #62
  6. Legionnaires #19
  7. LSH v4 #63
  8. Legionnaires #20
  9. LSH v4 #64
  10. Legionnaires #21
  11. LSH v4 #65
  12. Legionnaires #22
  13. LSH v4 #66
  14. Legionnaires #23
  15. LSH v4 #67
  16. Legionnaires #24
  17. LSH v4 #68
  18. Showcase '95 #6 (Legion story 1 only)
  19. Legionnaires #25
  20. New Titans Annual #11 
    • Not a Legion story, but the Pre-Zero Hour Time Trapper appears in a video, retconning some Titans history and some of Zero Hour. Time Trapper next appears in Legionnaires Annual #3.
  21. LSH v4 #69
  22. LSH v4 Annual #6 (stories 2 and 3)
  23. * Showcase '95 #6 (Legion story 2 only)
  24. Legionnaires #26
  25. LSH v4 #70
  26. Legionnaires #27
  27. LSH v4 #71
  28. Legionnaires #28
  29. Legionnaires Annual #2
  30. * Superboy v3 #17-19 (for Lar Gand appearance)
    • Published concurrently with LSH 70-72, but reads best all at once and this is a good spot for it
  31. LSH v4 #72
  32. Legionnaires #29
  33. * Guy Gardner, Warrior #29 (Brainiac 5 has a cameo in this story that ties into Legionnaires #29)
  34. LSH v4 #73
  35. Legionnaires #30
  36. Superboy v3 #21 (Future Tense)
  37. LSH v4 #74 (Future Tense)
  38. Legionnaires #31 (Future Tense)
  39. Underworld Unleashed
    • Not required to read the whole thing, but it explains what's going on with Chronos in the next two issues
  40. LSH v4 #75
  41. Legionnaires #32
  42. LSH v4 #76
  43. Legionnaires #33
  44. LSH v4 #77
  45. Legionnaires #34
  46. LSH v4 #78
  47. Dead Heat storyline (Flash & Impulse with XS)
    • Note: the Dead Heat storyline was published simultaneously with LSH 75-79, but reads best all at once and fits best here. XS leaves the 20th century after a few pages of Flash #112 and immediately goes into Legionnaires Annual #3.
    1. Flash v2 #108
    2. Impulse #9
    3. Flash v2 #109
    4. Impulse #10
    5. Flash v2 #110
    6. Impulse #11
    7. Flash v2 #111
    8. Impulse #12
    9. Flash v2 #112
  48. * Legionnaires Annual #3 (Dead Earth)
  49. Legionnaires #35
  50. LSH v4 #79
  51. Legionnaires #36
  52. LSH v4 #80
  53. * Showcase '96 #8 (Legion story only)
  54. Legionnaires #37
  55. Flash v2 #114 
    • Wally meets the Tornado Twins in the future pre-Legion - not essential reading, but this is where it fits into publishing order
  56. LSH v4 #81
  57. Sergio Aragones Destroys DC #1
    • Non-continuity, but this is publishing order
  58. Legionnaires #38
  59. LSH v4 #82
  60. Legionnaires #39
  61. LSH v4 #83
  62. Legionnaires #40
  63. LSH v4 #84
  64. Wonder Woman Gallery #1 
    • Pin-up book, one page shows some Legionnaires for some reason, but not required reading
  65. Legionnaires #41
  66. LSH v4 Annual #7 (Dead Earth)
  67. Power of Shazam! Annual #1 (Dead Earth)
As of Legionnaires #41, we find that the teams have been split and half are back in the 20th century (the LSH book) while half are still in the 30th century (the Legionnaires book). One of the first things that Team 20 runs into is the Final Night crossover....

This concludes part 1 of the Reboot Reading order, covering about the first two years of publishing history. Look for part 2 sometime in late 2025 when the 20th century team makes it back to the 30th century. Oops, spoilers!

Monday, May 13, 2024

The 5YL Legion Reading Order

Over at the Legion of Substitute Podcasters, here is the order in which we recapped the issues, which is pretty much publishing order. We grouped the early Valor issues, the Timber Wolf miniseries, and the Amethyst miniseries as one just to get them out of the way. The Eclipso storyline is mostly irrelevant, but it introduces him to the greater DCU and he gets the name Valor here. I'm leaving out the L.E.G.I.O.N. series, since Tinya was already gone from the main Legion series, until the crossover at the very end of this list.

Note that this is the reading order if you're going to read full issues. If you want to know the intricate chronology of this time period you can follow the continuity of Valor and Legionnaires (which overlap, show expanded versions, or versions from different points of view) or the definitive chronology of the entire 5YL timeline which I've just published in 10 parts (using the links at the top).
  • LSH v4 #1-13
  • LSH v4 Annual #1
  • LSH v4 #14-24
  • LSH v4 Annual #2
  • LSH v4 #25-30
  • LSH v4 Annual #3
  • LSH v4 #31-36
  • Timber Wolf miniseries #1-5 (doesn't need to be here precisely, but this a convenient location)
  • LSH v4 #37-41
  • * Eclipso: The Darkness Within #1, various annuals, #2 [see note at bottom]
  • Legionnaires #1
  • LSH v4 #42
  • Legionnaires #2
  • LSH v4 #43
  • Legionnaires #3
  • Amethyst (1987) miniseries #1-4 (reveals the new origin of Mordru plus it's an intro to Amethyst who will play a part in the series coming up)
  • LSH v4 #44
  • Legionnaires #4
  • LSH v4 #45
  • Legionnaires #5
  • LSH v4 #46
  • Legionnaires #6
  • Valor #1-11 (the early issues are mostly irrelevant, but there are some plot points introduced here that pay off later; takes place in the 20th century)
  • LSH v4 #47
  • Legionnaires #7
  • LSH v4 Annual #4
  • Valor #12
  • LSH v4 #48
  • Legionnaires #8
  • Valor #13
  • LSH v4 #49-50
  • Legionnaires #9
  • Valor #14
  • LSH v4 #51-52
  • Legionnaires #10
  • Valor #15
  • LSH v4 #53
  • Legionnaires #11
  • Valor #16
  • LSH v4 #54
  • Legionnaires #12
  • Valor #17
  • LSH v4 #55
  • Legionnaires #13
  • Valor #18
  • LSH v4 #56
  • Legionnaires #14
  • Valor #19
  • LSH v4 #57
  • LSH v4 Annual #5
  • Legionnaires #15
  • Valor #20
  • LSH v4 #58
  • ** Legionnaires #16
  • Valor #21
  • LSH v4 #59
  • Legionnaires Annual #1
  • L.E.G.I.O.N. #68 pages 22-24 only
  • L.E.G.I.O.N. #69 
  • Legionnaires #17 (End of an Era part 1)
  • Valor #22 (End of an Era part 2) 
  • LSH v4 #60 (End of an Era part 3)
  • Showcase '94 #8-9 (not Legion-related, but kicks off Zero Hour)
  • Zero Hour #4
  • L.E.G.I.O.N. #70 pages 7-9 and 16-17 only
  • Legionnaires #18 (End of an Era part 4) 
  • Valor #23 (End of an Era part 5) 
  • Superboy v3 #8
  • Zero Hour #3
  • Zero Hour #2
  • LSH v4 #61 (End of an Era part 6) 
  • Zero Hour #1
  • Zero Hour #0
* Eclipso was a 20-issue story spanning that year's Annuals, that took place in the 20th century and spun off the Valor solo series (also set in the 20th century). In the first issue, Eclipso eclipses Lar Gand, then spends the next 18 story issues trying to figure out what to do next with all of the other heroes he has eclipsed. Of course, he is defeated in the end, but Lar Gand not only gets a boost in name recognition but he gets a new name (Valor) and his own series ("Valor"). It's pretty forgettable, but here is the reading order for the Eclipso story. 
  1. Eclipso: The Darkness Within #1
  2. Superman: The Man of Steel Annual #1
  3. Green Lantern Annual #1
  4. Detective Comics Annual #5
  5. Superman Annual #4
  6. Justice League America Annual #6
  7. Demon Annual #2
  8. Flash Annual #5
  9. Green Arrow Annual #5
  10. Action Comics Annual #4
  11. Robin Annual #5
  12. Hawkworld Annual #3
  13. Deathstroke Annual #1
  14. New Titans Annual #8
  15. L.E.G.I.O.N. Annual #3
  16. Wonder Woman Annual #3
  17. Justice League Europe Annual #3
  18. Batman Annual #16
  19. Adventures of Superman Annual #4
  20. Eclipso: The Darkness Within #2
Or, if you don't want to read 1100 pages, you can read the recaps here (part 1, part 2).

** Valor #11-21 takes place pretty much in between pages and panels of Legionnaires #16. It partially takes place in the 20th century, and partially outside of time when he meets the 30th century Legion. You can read the Valor issues in the same order as above, as by the time you get to #16 you're already caught up in the Valor series, which by this point is tied into regular Legion continuity. But see this blog post for the details of what happens when and where.

Friday, May 10, 2024

The Definitive 5YL Legion Timeline part 10: Five Years Later (Oct 1-2, 2995)

The "Five Years Later" story concludes on Oct 1-2 2995 (plus events on Aug 8-9 1994, the dawn of time, and the end of time, covering all of Zero Hour to the "fade to white". See the entry for Year 1 for the details.

In this table, rows are color-coded yellow if it was a date confirmed by the 2995 Sourcebook; green if it was a date confirmed in the comic itself; and blue for when I had to estimate a date. If the row is in italics, it means there was no specific date given. And finally, during Zero Hour, there were some things happening in 1994 (red text), in 2995, and at the dawn or end of time (blue text) "simultaneously". Once we get there, it's not strictly chronologically linear, but narratively linear instead.

End of Time

Time Trapper is blasted by someone unknown, who starts to destroy time from the end going backwards and from the dawn of time going forwards

Zero Hour #4

8/8/1994

Jo tries to go back to the future with Enya/Phase, but at the last second she leaves him and returns to her L.E.G.I.O.N. team

L.E.G.I.O.N. #70

 

Jo’s time bubble is blocked from going to the future moments later. SW6 Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Livewire fall out of the timestream in 1994, where they are met by Jo

Legionnaires #18

 

The pre-Crisis Earth-1 Kal-El Superboy appears after helping the Legion and meets Kon-El Superboy in Smallville. Kal-El quickly realizes that this is a mix of his town and the post-Crisis version, and after a fight with Kon-El he realizes that he is the time anomaly here. Kon-El tells Kal-El that he will carry on the job as Superboy, and Kal-El vanishes

Superboy v3 #8

 

Batman, Superman, Metron, and GL Kyle Rayner contact heroes, including Emerald Dragon and the SW6 founders and Kon-El, to join up in New York City

Legionnaires #18, Superboy v3 #8, Zero Hour #4

 

Metron notices that Impulse is from the 30th century

Zero Hour #3

End of Time

Rokk spends an infinite amount of time in the Infinite Library and meets the Time Trapper when he finally escapes

Legionnaires #18

 

The Time Trapper explains his history and reveals that the SW6 Legionnaires were taken from time by him, not cloned by the Dominators. But their continued existence warped time and caused the Trapper to go insane trying to “fix” things to actually protect the Legion from the Zero Hour energy wave. He then reveals himself to Rokk that the two of them are really temporal duplicates

Valor #23, Zero Hour #3

8/8/1994

In the middle of the night, SW6 Saturn Girl, Livewire, and Cosmic Boy and Emerald Dragon join the gathering of heroes, including Superboy and Impulse. Vril Dox launches a probe into the time stream to try to figure out what’s going on; it will reappear in ZH #1

L.E.G.I.O.N. #70, Zero Hour #3

 

While trying to save NYC, Emerald Dragon reminds Booster Gold that they’ve met before. Afterwards, Waverider tells the heroes that they must try to stop time from eating itself in the past and in the future; the Legionnaires choose to go on the future mission, as this is their only way home.

Zero Hour #2

Beginning of Time

Waverider leads a team to the distant past. They are attacked by Extant, and Waverider sends the heroes back to their own time

Zero Hour #2

10/2/2995

Meanwhile, Superman leads a team to New Earth in the 30th century where they see “the end of time and space”. Metron devises a plan to stop the future from collapsing; Captain Atom blasts Metron’s Mobius Chair inside a boom tube which apparently saves the day in the future. Polestar arrives with Time Trapper, who sends the 20th century heroes back to their home while the Legionnaires remain in the 30th century

Zero Hour #2

8/8/1994

Extant says that he was not supposed to lose in the 30th century

Zero Hour #2

10/2/2995

A little while later later, someone appears in the 30th century and reopens the rift in time to make sure things happen correctly

Zero Hour #2

 

The remaining Legionnaires (adult and SW6) arrive on Pocket Earth from Talus, only to find that they can’t stop the imminent destruction of the planet. The Time Trapper brings Rokk and the Legionnaires who just helped out at New Earth to Talus, and tells them that they are temporal duplicates and the only way to save the universe is by combining all of the counterparts. The Time Trapper leaves the Legionnaires on Pocket Earth, saying the future is in their hands. It’s now a group of both adult and SW6 Garth, Imra, and Rokk, and the Trapper’s Iron Curtain of Time is the only thing protecting them. The Legionnaires and the universe fade to white

LSH v4 #61, Zero Hour #1

 

Then the Time Trapper confronts someone, who blasts him again and apparently destroys him. The 30th century fades to white

Zero Hour #1

8/9/1994

Heroes from the future start disappearing – first Impulse, then Booster Gold. Metron theorizes that the time entropy wave is coming back through time and that their times are now gone. At Vanishing Point. Superman and Kyle retrieve Vril Dox’s time probe (from Zero Hour #3 and LEGION #70) for Atom to use its components in creating a new Waverider. Later, on Earth, the one behind it all reveals himself: it’s Hal Jordan, aka Parallax, who says he knows how to fix the universe, even if it means destroying it. Hal was the one who stripped the Time Trapper of his powers and killed him, and Hal has decided that the universe needs him as a protector and he wants to reboot the universe

Zero Hour #1

Dawn of Time

Hal Jordan, now Parallax, wants to remake the universe and fix what he thinks is wrong with it. The Spectre joins the fight and the heroes funnel the energy of Parallax’s new universe into Damage, who explodes, re-creating the universe but without the guiding hand of Parallax. Waverider says there will be slight differences from what they knew before. Power Girl’s son is born.

Zero Hour #0

End of Time

The new Time Trapper is glimpsed at the end of time (originally intended to be the alternate Batgirl, per Dan Jurgens’ intro to the Zero Hour Omnibus)

Zero Hour #0, Omnibus


Thursday, May 09, 2024

The Definitive 5YL Legion Timeline part 9: Five Years Later (Sept 21 to Oct 1, 2995)

The "Five Years Later" story continues in August and part of Sept 2995, from when the Zero Hour time shenanigans start taking effect to just before Zero Hour #4. See the entry for Year 1 for the details.

In this table, rows are color-coded yellow if it was a date confirmed by the 2995 Sourcebook; green if it was a date confirmed in the comic itself; and blue for when I had to estimate a date. If the row is in italics, it means there was no specific date given. And finally, during Zero Hour, there were some things happening in 1994 (red text), in 2995, and at the dawn or end of time (blue text) "simultaneously". Once we get there, it's not strictly chronologically linear, but narratively linear instead.

Date unknown, between 9/19 and 9/29

Triad reviews Valor’s history with Catspaw

Valor #11, in between Legionnaires #15 & #16

Sun 9/23/95

The team arrives on Rimbor, and Jo brings a team to an old warehouse but he and Sussa are captured by a rival gang.

LSH v4 #55

Wed 9/27/95

Legionnaires start the process of going undercover while hiding out on Rimbor, and Sussa escapes

LSH v4 #54

 

Universo looks for the Legion on Rimbor; Jo recruits other gangs to go against the government, while Mysa and Vi sneak into government HQ to find out what’s going on; on Starhaven, Dawnstar undergoes a vision quest

LSH v4 #55

 

The Legion exposes Khundish interference on Rimbor and escape

LSH v4 #56

Thu 9/28/95

The Legion tries and fails to protect Starfinger III from the Khunds, while fighting the Legion Academy, the Khundish ex-Legionnaires, and the mind-controlled Heroes of Lallor; Polestar leaves for New Earth while the rest of the team go to Weber’s World; Valor finds something strange with Dev-Em; Rond Vidar finds something strange in the time stream

LSH v4 #57

Fri 9/29/95

Arriving at Weber’s World, the team tries to stop the Khunds’ bombs from destroying the planet; Dawnstar arrives and meets Wildfire; Firefist kills Veilmist; after studying at the Infinite Library, Glorith travels to Tharn where she restores Mordru’s powers to help her conquer the universe

LSH v4 #58

 

Meanwhile, SW6 Brainy & Triad find that Valor has been retconned from history

Valor #13, Legionnaires #16 pages 9-10

 

A team of Legionnaires goes back in time to find out what happened to Valor

Valor #14, Legionnaires #16 page 10

Outside of time

The Legionnaires enter the time stream and crash their Time Bubble

Valor #15

 

The Legionnaires fight Valor and find out that Valor’s companion Lori is Glorith

Valor #16

 

The Legionnaires fight Glorith, but Valor succumbs to the effects of his lead poisoning and dies; SW6 Valor appears

Valor #17

 

Brainiac 5 tells SW6 Valor that he will have to spend another 1000 years in the Phantom Zone in order to save time, and Valor does not take it well

Valor #18

 

The presence of Waverider and seeing his fellow Legionnaires vanish changes Valor’s mind. Once he accepts his fate, the Legionnaires appear back in their own time and the legend of Valor is restored

Valor #19, Legionnaires #16 page 11

 

From Vanishing Point, the Linear Men see a timequake affect the 30th century, which causes Dream Girl and Star Boy to appear

Legionnaires #16, Valor #20

Fri 9/29/95

The Legionnaires instantly return to their present, unaware of their meeting with Glorith and the Valors

Legionnaires #16 page 11

 

Star Boy, Dream Girl, and Bouncing Boy appear with the Legionnaires and Ferro Lad is long dead, leading Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad – who seem to be the only ones aware that something funny is going on – to take a Time Bubble to figure it out (even though Invisible Kid and Rond Vidar are secretly aware that something’s happening); Polestar appears at New Earth

Legionnaires #16, LSH v4 #59

 

Rond, SW6 Brainiac 5, and SW6 Invisible Kid arrive on Weber’s World along with Mon-El, Shadow Lass, and Dev-Em too late to prevent the death of Laurel Gand from the Khund bomb, after which Jo leaves for 1994 to find Tinya

LSH v4 #59

 

The SW6 Legionnaires confront Polestar at New Earth

Legionnaires #17

8/6/1994

Valor tries to re-create the feats he did before he went into the Phantom Zone, but fails; the Linear Men watch Valor from Vanishing Point, and see timequakes affect the 30th century

Valor #20, Legionnaires #16, LSH v4 #59

 

As a result of the timeline issues, Valor splits into multiple copies of himself and manages to do all the things that legend said he did over the years, in just a few hours, then resigns himself to having Glorith send him back to the Bgztl Twilight dimension. But the Linear Men realize it’s too late, the future is doomed

Valor #21

8/7/1994

Jo Nah arrives from the future in the time bubble He meets who he thinks is Tinya, but it turns out to have been her cousin Enya all along.

L.E.G.I.O.N. #68

 

Jo wants to bring Enya back to the 30th century

L.E.G.I.O.N. #69

Sat 9/30/95

Laurel Gand is laid to rest on Shanghalla in a ceremony attended by a number of adult and SW6 Legionnaires, after which Glorith and Mordru attack the group with replicas of some of their old foes and then kidnap Rokk, and then Dawnstar fades out

Legionnaires #17

 

Valor and others go to New Earth to help Brande bring Pocket Earth into this universe, but while the Subs and several Legionnaires blink out of existence, Pocket Earth turns out to be unstable and will explode in 72 hours

Valor #22

 

Rokk tries but can’t escape Mordru and Glorith

LSH v4 #60

Sun 10/1/95

Rokk escapes Mordru and Glorith by going into the Infinite Library; the surviving members of the adult and SW6 Legions meet on Winath to help look for Rokk, but when Glorith and Mordru show up on Talus seeking the Time Beacon, the Legions go there. The magicians call forth the Infinite Man, and then they take his powers. Gim Allon disappears when his SW6 counterpart Leviathan is killed

LSH v4 #60

 

Mordru and Glorith begin to remake the universe, and the Legion teams fight them and their evil dopplegangers. But one by one, more Legionnaires fade out. Mysa manages to break Mordru and Glorith apart which causes their spell to fail, at least temporarily, before she fades out

Legionnaires #18

 

Valor and Shadow Lass meet Pre-Crisis Superboy, who helps the Legions fight Glorith and Mordru. The team beats Glorith, and her Infinite Man powers flow to Valor. He then dumps it all on Mordru, who is unprepared to have his mind merge with the universe. Mordru teleports away into the core of Pocket Earth, which is ready to explode in a couple of days. Valor and Shady vanish, and after Superboy makes a rousing speech, he too vanishes

Valor #23