Showing posts with label Jim Shooter. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jim Shooter. Show all posts

Sunday, July 06, 2025

RIP Jim Shooter

Jim Shooter was a complicated man.

The other day, Erik Larsen (of Savage Dragon fame) wrote this about him: “Shooter’s reputation was earned. He had very specific rules of what he thought comics should be and he was not shy in imposing them. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. He absolutely did a lot of good but it wasn’t all good. A number of creative people left the company in his time in office” as editor-in-chief at Marvel. Shooter’s death made the Hollywood Reporter and the New York Times.

Some people swear by him, and other people swear at him,” Bill Sienkiewicz said in the New York Times interview. “Every bad thing you’ve heard about Jim Shooter has a bit of truth to it,” said Danny Fingeroth in the same interview, “But so does every good thing you’ve heard.”

But let’s rewind.

Shooter was a 13-year old boy who read Marvel and DC comics, and wondered why DC’s weren’t as fun and dynamic as Marvel’s (just compare the Superman and Batman stories of the mid-60s with what Marvel was doing, for example). So he figured he’d sit down and write a story about one of DC’s teams that he felt had promise but wasn’t living up to its potential. He wrote and penciled a story on notebook paper for Adventure Comics featuring the Legion (because he didn’t know how comics were actually made). He got a call from editor Mort Weisinger asking for more, which he readily accepted because it meant that he could help provide for his family. That story became Adventure Comics #348. The “more” turned into Adventure Comics #346-347 (cover-dated July and August 1966), which were printed after he turned 14 years old. Weisinger asked him to come up with scripts for Superman and Supergirl stories (he co-created the Parasite and wrote the first Superman/Flash race), too. Then he stuck around for a few more years (his last issue was Adventure #380, cover-dated 1969) until he graduated high school, and left the business. Not long after, Weisinger retired and the Legion moved to the backup of Action Comics and then in the backup of Superboy.

In the early 70s, Legion fandom had just begun, with letters appearing in the comics regarding some fanzines (like Interlac and the Legion Outpost). The Outpost, run by fans Mike Flynn and Harry Broertjes (prounced “Brodges”, like “bridges” but with an “o”), decided to track down Shooter for an interview in 1974 or 1975, when Shooter was 23 years old. That eventually led to Shooter deciding to come back to DC to write the Legion again starting with issue #209 cover dated June 1975 (where the backup story had a new character as a fan of the Legion named “Flynt Brojj”), and then after a couple of years, Marvel poached him as a writer and he eventually became an editor - and by age 28, he was Marvel's Editor-in-Chief.

Shooter’s time at Marvel was simultaneously applauded and condemned, depending on who you talk to. He had Frank Miller on Daredevil, Walt Simonson on Thor, Chris Claremont and John Byrne on the X-Men, and later Byrne on the Fantastic Four. He created the first company-wide crossover miniseries with Contest of Champions, and then a couple years later he wrote Secret Wars at the request of his bosses who had a joint deal with toy makers (and co-created Spider-Man’s black costume which eventually became Venom). He launched the New Universe, and co-created the Transformers comic and storyline that influenced the cartoon series and then the movies. 

On the other hand, he was responsible (at least in part) for killing the original JLA/Avengers crossover, for instituting a “no gays in Marvel comics” (except the ones who tried to rape Bruce Banner in the shower in a story in the “Hulk” magazine, see this article for details), for driving Miller and Byrne to DC (where they did Dark Knight and the Superman revamp, respectively) along with Marv Wolfman and Roy Thomas (for not allowing writers to be editor on their own stories), and being the Marvel face of the lawsuit between Jack Kirby and Marvel about relinquishing rights to his characters in exchange for his original art (here’s Shooter’s version).

In the late 80s he was finally ousted as Marvel’s Editor in Chief, and he later went on to co-found Valiant Comics (which started with Nintendo and WWE comics, later of course featuring Magnus, Dr Solar, Turok, and many others), Defiant Comics, and Broadway Comics, with varying levels of success. He returned to DC writing the Legion with great fanfare in 2008, picking up the Threeboot after Waid and Kitson left (and after Supergirl left), only to meet his greatest foe: DC Editorial, who were more interested in pursuing the Retroboot than the Threeboot, so they told him to wrap up his 18 issue storyline several issues early, leading him to leave the book with #50 being rewritten by a still-anonymous DC person using the pseudonym “Justin Thyme” (reportedly Dan DiDio).

Apparently he spent the last few years on the convention circuit, conversing with fans (who were growing older and fewer) and pros alike, and unbeknownst to many, had been diagnosed with esophageal cancer and was undergoing treatments in between convention appearances. He finally passed away last week at the age of 73.

From Paul Levitz: “Jim was an excellent super hero writer, a character creator, an editor with an eagle eye, and a man who gave his all to what he did.  From my perspective, he was far weaker as an enterprise leader, and unfortunately that was what he most wanted to be. His sense of history was not, in my view, as good as his sense of fiction.  But what he did well, he did gloriously...and my inner child will always be grateful for his inspiration.”

From Mark Waid: “My meals and conversations with Jim were always genial, and I never failed to remind him just how inspirational his work was to me; there are storytelling choices and stylistic influences I got from him in nearly all my work.” Waid has credited the 2-part Mordru story for greatly influencing his own writing style.

Looking back at the Legion, here’s what he co-created in his three runs as writer:

  • Adventure Comics #346-349, 351-380 and Action Comics #378, 380-382, 384 (1966-1970): Ferro Lad, Karate Kid, Princess Projectra, Nemesis Kid, Dr Regulus (and Sun Boy’s origin story), Universo, Rond Vidar, the Time Cube, Emerald Empress, Mano, Tharok, Validus, Persuader (all as the Fatal Five), the Sun-Eater, the death of Ferro Lad, Beauty Blaze, Echo, the Controllers, Orion the Hunter, Takron-Galtos, the Dominators, Mantis Morlo, King Voxv, Shadow Lass, the second Legion Clubhouse, the Dark Circle, the Miracle Machine, Mordru, Chemical King, the Legion Academy, Tarik the Mute, the Tornado Twins, the Taurus Gang (including Black Mace), Leland McCauley III, the Wanderers, Eltro Gand
  • Superboy #209-214, 217, 220-224 (1975-1977): Soljer, Karate Kid’s origin, the Legion of Super-Rejects, Benn Pares, Leland McCauley IV, Laurel Kent, Grimbor, Charma, Pulsar Stargrave, Holdur, Quicksand
  • LSH v5 #37-50 (2008-2009): Gazelle, M’Rissey, UP Young Heroes
Written when he was just 13 years old, published at 14

Further reading:

Friday, April 29, 2022

RIP Neal Adams

Neal Adams needs no introduction, and many people will write elsewhere lots of good things about him and what he did for the industry over the years. So instead, I'm just going to recap his Legion work.


In the late 1960s, Adams drew a lot of covers for DC, including Adventure Comics, for which he pencilled and/or inked 13 covers towards the end of the Legion's run.

His first cover was #365, introducing Shadow Lass. It’s not that the previous covers by Curt Swan were not good, it’s just that Adams’ covers were that much better. He then did #366 (Validus blasting Superboy in a boxing ring, a precursor to his later Superman vs Muhammad Ali tabloid), #367 (surrounded by shadowy members of the Dark Circle), #368 (the mutiny of the super-heroines), #369 (intro Mordru), #371 (Superboy leaves the Legion), #372 (Superboy is smashed as a glass statue), #373 (the Tornado Twins), #375 (Bouncing Boy is the most powerful Legionnaire), #376 (the execution of Chameleon Boy; inks over Swan pencils), #377 (the Legionnaires are for hire; inks over Swan pencils), #378 (the Legionnaires are dying; inks over Swan pencils), and #379 (the dead Superboy is ejected into space; inks over Infantino pencils).

Jim Shooter recalled working with Adams in this 2008 interview:

JS:  By the way, it was great working with Neal, although I only worked with him on covers.  In the old days with Mort, with every story Mort required a cover sketch or a detailed cover idea if the writer in question could not sketch.  As a matter of fact, he required two cover sketches for each story.  What he would do is he would take the better one and make it the cover and make the other one the splash page because he used to do the symbolic splashes, rather than splash panels that started the story.  He’d call it the second cover.  So, I did two cover sketches. 

When I did the interior stuff I just did it in pencil, but with the cover sketch, I colored it, because they taught me how to color, so I did a whole color comp of this cover.  I put the logo and everything.  And usually they’d pick one of my designs and follow it.  I can’t think of an instance where they didn’t pick one of them.  What was really, really cool was the first time the book comes out and I see the cover and it was Neal Adams.  It was like, “Whoa!”  It was amazing.  Because more than any other guy, Neal would look at my crude little drawing and he would know what I meant.  And he would say, “All right.  I’ve got it.”  And then he would do this brilliant thing that was like he was reading my mind.  (Chuckle.)  And I would look at it and say, “Yeah, I meant that.”  (Mutual laughter.)  “That’s what I meant.  Yeah, good work, man.”

Stroud:  Just knocked it out of the park.

JS:  Oh, unbelievable.  Doing those covers with him…I just couldn’t wait to see what he did.

Stroud:  Sure.  You and the rest of the world.  He’s a formidable talent. 

Adams also did a wraparound cover for Batman #238, which inexplicably contained a Legion reprint story (from Adventure 324, the Legion of Super-Outlaws aka the Heroes of Lallor) and featured on the cover all of the characters inside the book.


Adams pencilled a famous group shot of the Legion for the 1976 DC Calendar, inked by the late great Dick Giordano, and this was later reused (with some cropping and rearranging of characters) as the cover to the 1978 Tempo paperback book with Legion reprints.



Finally, a few decades later, Adams provided what would turn out to be his final Legion cover, a variant for issue #44 of Jim Shooter's Threeboot run (LSH v5) cover-dated Sept. 2008. In the above interview, Shooter continued:

JS:  He’s doing a cover for the new series, by the way. 

Stroud:  Oh, is he?  I hadn’t heard that.

JS:  Yeah for issue #44.  Yeah, he asked to do it.  He actually sent an e-mail to Levitz and Didio saying, “Hey, good move hiring Shooter and I want to do a cover.”  And they asked me, “Would that be okay with you?”  I said, “Oh, sure, let’s give the kid a break.” 

Stroud: (Laughter.)  Yeah, I guess we could do that.

JS: “We could see our way clear.”  So anyway, he insisted I give him a sketch, and so I did, and now I’m sitting here and can’t wait to see it.  I can’t wait to see it.  It’s going to be cool.  I’m not going to get many covers from him, he’s a busy guy, but it’s a very, very cool that he wanted to do one. 

Stroud:  Absolutely.  I can feel the chills down your spine from here. 

JS:  It’s going to be good.

Thursday, January 02, 2020

A Field Guide to Legion Cover Variants, 2008-2009

The Field Guide to Legion Cover Variants, part 3: 2008-2009

The gallery, presented in chronological publication order along with cover date:

2008

Action Comics v1 #859 - January 2008
Part 2 of "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes" story arc. Note that the solicited version of the Andy Kubert variant includes Batman's utility belt, which is completely cropped out of the printed version.

Regular cover
Art by Gary Frank


Variant cover (as printed)
Art by Andy Kubert
Variant cover (solicited)
Art by Andy Kubert


Action Comics v1 #860 - February 2008
Part 3 of "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes" story arc.

Regular cover
Art by Gary Frank
Variant cover
Art by Steve Lightle





Action Comics v1 #861 - March 2008
Part 4 of "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes" story arc.

Regular cover
Art by Gary Frank
Variant cover
Art by Mike Grell


Legion of Super-Heroes (vol 5) #37 - March 2008
Meanwhile, on the main title, the team of Jim Shooter and Francis Manapul were starting a new run on the Threeboot while the Retroboot was still going on, and Manapul produced a diptych set of covers.

Cover A (left side)
Art by Francis Manapul
Cover B (right side)
Art by Francis Manapul

This one fits together nicely as a single poster (though it would have been nice to have been able to see it without the cover copy).



Action Comics v1 #862 - April 2008
Part 5 of "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes" story arc.

Regular cover
Art by Gary Frank
Variant cover
Art by Keith Giffen


Action Comics v1 #863 - May 2008
Part 6 of "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes" story arc, the finale. In 2010, the regular cover was reprinted with the interior of issue #859 as a special edition promoting the collected version of the story (see the 2006-2007 Field Guide).

Regular cover
Art by Gary Frank
Variant cover
Art by Gary Frank


DC Universe #0 - June 2008
This was the bridge between Countdown (which had just ended, counting down from #52 to #1) and Final Crisis (which counted up from #1), but a transition story not really a part of either. The textless version of the cover is shown just because of the gorgeous George Pérez artwork. The center column of the first printing, which shows the Legion, was later made a part of the Legion of 3 Worlds trade paperback cover.



First printing cover
Art by George Pérez
Second printing cover
Art by Ivan Reis (Green Lantern),
George Pérez (Superman/LSH),
& Aaron Lopresti (Wonder Woman)




Regular cover (textless)
Art by George Pérez


Legion of Super-Heroes (vol 5) #44 - September 2008
This one has a Neal Adams variant cover.

Regular cover
Art by Francis Manapul & John Livesay
Variant cover
Art by Neal Adams


Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #1 - October 2008
Spinning out of "Final Crisis", this series had the Reboot, the Threeboot, and the Retroboot Legions all meet up for the second time (the first was in an untold tale). The trade dress on this series resembled that on the main series, with one cover being a full image of a character and the other cover showing only a sliver of action in the middle third of the page. At a Diamond Retailer Roundtable Program (RRP) summit, they were given a special incentive cover which was the pencils-only version of the main cover.

Main cover (first printing)
Art by George Pérez
Sliver cover
Art by George Pérez




RRP variant cover
Art by George Pérez
Second printing
Art by George Pérez


Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #2 - November 2008
Same trade dress for part 2. After this, the title fell way behind schedule, the next issue didn't come out for five months, until the April cover date. The sliver cover homages Justice League of America #1, the first time the JLA met the JSA.

Main cover
Art by George Pérez
Sliver cover
Art by George Pérez


2009

Justice Society of America v3 #22 - February 2009
Part 7 of the "Thy Will Be Done" story arc.

Regular cover
Art by Alex Ross
Variant cover
Art by Dale Eaglesham


Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #3 - April 2009
After a several-month delay, issue 3 is out.

Main cover
Art by George Pérez
Sliver cover
Art by George Pérez
 


Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #4 - June 2009
Part 4, Brainiac 5 gets the portrait this time. Notice that the printed version is different from the solicited version in the image that appears in the lightning rod.

Sliver cover
Art by George Pérez

Main cover (solicited)
Art by George Pérez
Main cover (as printed)
Art by George Pérez







Justice Society of America v3 #26 - June 2009
Three variants for this issue combine to make one large image.

Left side
Art by Alex Ross
Center
Art by Alex Ross
Right side
Art by Alex Ross

The entire triptych with no trade dress


Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #5 - September 2009
Part 5, the final issue (which has come out after the main Final Crisis series has already ended).

Main cover
Art by George Pérez
Sliver cover
Art by George Pérez


Adventure Comics v2 #1/#504 - October 2009
Adventure Comics (Volume 2) was a revival of the old series of the same name. It featured Superboy and Legion stories, as well as three Blackest Night tie-ins. After #12, the old numbering was picked up again at Adventure Comics (Volume 1) #516. The main cover had the new numbering #1-12 with a shadow legacy number, while the variant cover showed the legacy numbering starting with #504 on top of a shadow number from the regular cover.

Notice that the solicited version of the variant cover had Superboy-Prime blacked out so as to not spoil his appearance.

Main cover
Art by Francis Manapul





Variant cover (solicited)
Art by Francis Manapul
Variant cover (as printed)
Art by Francis Manapul


Adventure Comics v2 #2/#505 - November 2009
Main cover is Superboy, variant cover is mainly the Legion.

Main cover
Art by Francis Manapul
Variant cover
Art by Francis Manapul





Adventure Comics v2 #3/#506 - December 2009
Main cover is Superboy, variant cover is mainly the Legion.

Main cover
Art by Francis Manapul
Variant cover
Art by Francis Manapul





Superman Secret Origin #2 - December 2009
This 6-issue miniseries gave the history of Superman in the post-Infinite Crisis Retroboot era, when it was shown that he had been Superboy when younger and had joined the Legion. The main cover was part of a connected series (seen below).

Main cover
Art by Gary Frank
Variant cover
Art by Gary Frank