Bits of Legionnaire Business

Haven't done one of these in a little while, so here's a linkdump of Legion-related stuff from the past week or so. "Smallville" news at the bottom.

• First of all, anyone who thinks that DC is really going to "let the characters rest for a little bit and see where we go from there" following the cancellation of LSH v5, and who thinks that DC doesn't know what to do with the characters, should read this summary over at io9.com. They know exactly what they're doing, and "Legion of Three Worlds" will end with a new status quo for the team(s), and all signs point to Geoff Johns being involved.
  
  
• Tim Callahan had a long interview with Barry Lyga at CBR.
  

  One of the biggest Legion fans I know is author Barry Lyga, of "The Astonishing Adventures of Fanboy and Goth Girl" fame. His new novel, "Hero Type," landed in bookstores a few weeks ago, and I wanted to talk to him about how the Legion shaped his notion of storytelling and what we both thought about the past, present, and future of the 31st century's greatest super-team...

  
  
• Foremer Legion editor KC Carlson reviews the DC Vault (Amazon link), a book with lots of fanboy collectibles (or reproductions) tucked inside. Among them is a reprinted version "of the poster that was included in Graphitti Design’s deluxe version of the History of the DC Universe — a mind-blowing group shot of over 50 DC characters as drawn (and signed) by over 50 legendary artists." That poster, which was never released commercially and is difficult to find on the secondary market, contains the White Witch as one of the characters in the jam poster (drawn by P. Craig Russell). Click to enlarge the picture. (Full disclosure: this is one book that I'm going to order with the 6% I get back from Amazon when you click on one of my links and buy something!)
  
  
  
• Revealing a "secret" which was all but apparent during the Post-Zero Hour Legion run, that very same KC Carlson commented on Tim Callahan's review of L3W #2 that R.J. Brande was indeed supposed to be the long-lived Martian Manhunter. (original comment here, more discussion here.)
  
  
• Matthew at the Legion Abstract shows off his son's costume. He might be eligible for the Legion in a few years.
  
  
• The Legion of Substitute Podcasters produced episode 2, featuring ADV 267 and ACT 267 plus some recent stuff, and episode 3, featuring SBOY 86 and ACT 276.
  
  
• Francis Manapul offers the original pencils to the wraparound cover to LSH v5 #50 on his home site, and answers some reader questions.
  
  
• The "Supergirl on a comet" cover by Adam Hughes is offered as a computer background screen.
  
  
• The Fortress Keeper at the Fortress of Fortitude has a unique, um, "prediction" for a spinoff of "Smallville" starring Supergirl and the Legion. Don't hold your breath for this one, but then again, given The CW, who knows.
  
  
• Superman Homepage notes that the current issue of Smallville Magazine, issue #29, has an article "which explores Superman's relationship with the Legion of Super Heroes" in for those readers who don't know much about the Legion.
  
  
• KryptonSite has the latest Smallville SPOILERS, so read at your own risk.
  

  UPDATED 10/29/08: Don't expect the Legion to be wearing full-on costumes. However, they will be wearing clothing that is evocative of their comic book counterparts, much like Clark has his blue shirt and red jacket.
  
  UPDATED 10/28/08: Alexz Johnson [IMDB, Myspace, fan site, fan site] who starred in The N's Instant Star, is said to be filming a role on Smallville this week. Could that role be that of Imra Ardeen, a.k.a. Saturn Girl of the Legion? Visit Rumorville for more details...
  - The villain Geoff Johns mentioned using is not Darkseid, Mordru, or the Time Trapper; however, there is an additional threat - it's not just Brainiac .
  
  UPDATED 10/14/08: Three Legionnaires from the future will appear - and if you're guessing it's the same roster that appeared in their first appearance way back when, you guessed correctly... the three Legionnaires will be Garth, Imra, and Rokk, who have powers of electricity, telepathy, and magnetism, respectively.

  
  

Shooter dishes on Legion demise

That's the title of the article over at CBR, an interview with Jim Shooter on how his planned 16-issue story arc got shortened. Go read it.

“I had originally planned and written a detailed plot, over 16,400 words, for 16 issues, but we subsequently added an in-continuity, two-issue fill-in to buy time for [artist] Francis Manapul, who’d already needed to have two issues drawn by substitute artists. That brought the total for the arc to 18 issues,” explained Shooter. “The two planned fill-in issues were to be the ‘Dream Wedding’ sub-arc, drawn by Rick Leonardi, in which Brainiac 5 got engaged to Dream Girl’s spirit in Part 1 and got married—in Dreamland—to her spirit in Part 2. The first part got done [in ‘The Legion of Super-Heroes’#47, in stores this week], but the second part was axed.

“No, I didn’t begin to get in ‘everything I wanted.’ What saw print was not anywhere near what I imagined or what was called for in the scripts. Not even close.”

The article also discusses how Shooter was directed to come up with a "Superlad" from Krypton and then un-directed to do so.

"They actually fired me at one point for complaining too enthusiastically about a really aggravating snafu. I groveled enough to get my gig back – I have child support to pay – but they took Super Lad away. Then they canceled the book."

I hereby apologize VERY LOUDLY to Rich Johnston for casting doubt on his bar scene contacts. They were correct. My main concern was that his was the only source of information and there was no independent confirmation. So he was correct all along.

Shooter believes the decision to cancel “The Legion of Super-Heroes” has more to do with ending his stay at DC, as opposed to the publisher determining the title has run its course. “An unimpeachable source, an old friend in a position to know, tells me that sales of comics are down in general, and that sales of DC comics are down in particular, pretty much across the board,” Shooter explained. “Sales of ‘The Legion of Super-Heroes’ aren’t great, but they’re a lot better than those of some of the titles they’re keeping. I think canceling the book is a graceful way of getting rid of me. I complain too much and too loudly.”

... “But let’s focus on the real culprit – me. I guess what it really all comes down to is that my work wasn’t good enough to overcome all the small problems further down the line. If you’re out at first base, it doesn’t matter if you slide in at second.”

Ten Things Your Legion Collection Truly Needs

A couple of weeks ago we saw some interesting posts in the comicsblogohedron about things that you should have in your collection, from The Comics Reporter's "list of the 50 things they felt that every comics collection truly needs" to New York Magazine's Ten Oddball Things Your Comics Collection Truly Needs.

Here's my take on Ten Things Your Legion Collection Truly Needs.

In no particular order:

1. A copy of the Legion story from "Adventure Comics" #247. It doesn't matter if you own an original or one of the many reprints (nine times, at last count). This is where it all started.

2. That Damned Tabloid, the All-New Collector's Edition C-55 with the wedding of Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl. It's not the best story ever, but that's not the point. It's that it's just so big, and hard to store, and hard to find, and hard to keep in good condition. Plus, it features an in-continuity major event. And you have to get it signed by Mike Grell and Paul Levitz when you go to a convention, that's a rite of passage.

3. A Legion action figure. I use the term loosely here: you can go for the DC Direct action figures, the plastic statues that came in the rocketship-shaped box, any of the Heroclix, custom figures, the metal figurines that came out from Mayfair, the Happy Meal toys, or anything else like that.

4. The Great Darkness Saga, in the original comics or the trade paperback. Arguably the best Legion story ever.

5. The Ferro Lad saga, soon to be released as a trade paperback, or the original Adventure Comics issues. Jim Shooter, no older than 15, wrote this. Arguably the best Silver-Age Legion story.

6. Something merchandised: a Flight Ring, a set of stickers, a t-shirt, a poster, trading cards, etc. Just so you can bask in the coolness of having it.

7. Some original art. Doesn't matter if it's a convention sketch, a page of art from a published comic, something a fan drew that you bought on eBay, or just something you made up. Something that you own that nobody else has.

8. Adventure-era stories, preferably some of the early ones. There's just something wonderfully goofy and silly about DC Silver Age stories, especially the Superman-family of titles edited by Mort Weisinger. Super-Pets that travel 1000 years into their future? The Planetary Chance Machine? Queen Azura of Femnaz and the Revolt of the Girl Legionnaires? Computerized kissing games? Comics gold.

9. Some of the Jack C. Harris edited stories in the early 1980s (often written by Gerry Conway). Once you read those (Space Circus of Death, Dr. Mayavale, Lord Romdur) you'll have a better appreciation for everything else.

10. Holes in your collection. It's not just a hobby, it's an addiction. There will always be something you need to buy, whether it's a reading copy of an issue that came out 20 years before you were born or next month's new issue.

Some of these suggestions were real, some tongue-in-cheek. What stuff did I leave out that you think should be here?

New Heroclix

Here are the Legion-related figures from the new "Arkham Asylum" set of Heroclix.

Interestingly, the three villains are in their "Absolute Power" costumes, from the out-of-continuity arc of the same name in "Superman/Batman" #14-18 (and reprinted in the Superman/Batman Vol. 3: Absolute Power hardcover) rather than their regular costumes as seen in L3W.

032 LIGHTNING LORD (veteran)


037 ELEMENT LAD (rookie)


039 COSMIC KING (veteran)


057 SATURN QUEEN (veteran)

Coming Distractions: Jan. 2009

Coming up in January: the final issue of LSH v5. And JSA (with Starman) - that's it for the month, unless I missed something in the reprints. Legion of Three Worlds #5 will ship in February.

THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #50
Written by Jim Shooter
Art and cover by Francis Manapul & Livesay
It’s the final issue! The climactic conclusion of the Universal Annihilation War is here and every Legionnaire, every reservist and even the United Planets’ Young Heroes battle to save existence. Also featuring the return of Cosmic Boy, the death of a longtime Legionaire and a gorgeous wraparound cover!
FINAL ISSUE On sale January 28 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US



JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #23
Written by Geoff Johns & Alex Ross
Art by Dale Eaglesham
& Nathan Massengill
Cover by Alex Ross
“Black Adam and Isis” part 1 and a “Faces of Evil” issue! The new Justice Society regroups just in time to face one of their greatest and most personal enemies — Black Adam! The sorcerer Felix Faust has imprisoned the soul of Isis, Black Adam's deceased wife. But the Black Marvel just figured that out, and nothing will save Faust from his wrath — nothing except maybe the Justice Society of America. And everybody will be in for a surprise when they discover how Isis has changed since her death at the hands of the Four Horsemen. Will she be a friend to the world — or will she be its destruction?
On sale January 28 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

Trivia Answers #28

Oops, I forgot to post the answers to the last trivia quiz from last week. The theme for the month was villains.

1. Who was Jan Jor?

In the Adult Legion story of Adventure Comics #354, when the Legionnaires are checking through the records of former members who have had criminal records, a person on the screen named Jan Jor, who is 32 years of age in 2983 (or born in 2951) would have been 13 around this time. It is possible, then, that the yellow-costumed youth's name is Jan Jor [aka False Pretenses Lad], according to at least one site's speculation.

2. Which villain(s) possessed all (or nearly all) of the Legionnaires' powers?

My answers were Composite Superman and B.I.O.N. I had forgotten about Amalgamax, who was Composite Superman 2.0, and Composite Man from the post-Zero Hour Legion. Someone offered Mask Man from ADV 310, but he was a Mr. Mxyzptlk descendant who I don't recall having the abilities of all the Legionnaires. I could be wrong.

3. We know who used the names Bob Cobb, Betsy Norcross, and Marie Elkins while in 20th century Smallville fleeing Mordru. But what were their cover stories: who were Bob, Betsy, and Marie?

Anonymous for the win! Impressively, s/he got all of them:
* Mon-El used the name Bob Cobb and masqueraded as Clark Kent's cousin, a traveling salesman.
* Shadow Lass and stayed with the Langs and passed herself off as exchange student Betsy Norcross.
* Triplicate Girl portrayed Marie Elkins, a relative of Chief Parker's wife.

4. Of the members of the LSV, who were direct (or nearly so) counterparts of Legionnaires in terms of powers?

Lightning Lord - Lightning Lad
Saturn Queen or Esper Lass - Saturn Girl
Cosmic King - Element Lad
Sun Emperor or Beauty Blaze - Sun Boy
Micro Lad - Shrinking Violet
Magno Lad - Cosmic Boy
Ol-Vir - Mon-El

Chameleon Chief could change the forms of other things around him, so he wasn't a counterpart of Chameleon Boy. And Phantom Lad wasn't in the LSV.

5. Which non-Legionnaire helped the Legion defeat Mordru in his first appearance?

I deliberately left this vague to see what people would come up with. I was going for "first appearance" as in the first time we actually read a story about him, which would have been ADV 369-370. The White Witch helped defeat Mordru; Pete Ross, guessed by someone else, also fits here, though I should have said "future Legionnaire" since I was only looking for the Witch.

6. On the other hand, which two then-active Legionnaires did not help fight Darkseid in the Great Darkness Saga, and why?

Anon again: Chameleon Boy was serving time on Takron-Galtos, and Shrinking Violet was secretly a captive of the Imsk Liberation Front. Although, if he was in jail, was Cham considered active duty at the time?

7. Which Legion-centric alien races, pretty much never before seen in the 20th century, aided in the invasion of Earth in the INVASION! miniseries?

Khunds, Dominators, Durlans, Daxamites, Imskians, and the Gil'Dishpan.

BONUS ROUND

8. In "honor" of the impending cancellation of LSH v5 with #50 and the inevitable subsequent relaunch of LSH v6 #1, name as many of the issue #1's the Legion has ever had as you can. Include series and miniseries starring individual Legionnaires, small groups of Legionnaires, or anyone closely related to the Legion.

As usual, you guys got some that I had missed, but there are still ones you didn't get. I was looking for issue #1's of a Legion-related series, not necessarily all #1's that the Legion or a Legionnaire was in (so that drops out things like the Adventure Comics 80-Page Giant #1 and Unlimited Access #1, and all of the various Superman, Superboy, and Supergirl series). The ones on my list that you missed:
* Legion of Substitute Heroes Special
* Legion of Super-Heroes Archives
* Official Legion of Super-Heroes Index
* Showcase Presents: Legion of Super-Heroes

Annotated "Legion of Three Worlds" #2

Also check out the annotations by Douglas Wolk and Tim Callahan.

For first appearances and creators of all the characters, see these pre-annotations for the Pre-Zero Hour Legion (including Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Glorithverse, and Lightning Saga), Post-Zero Hour Legion, Post-Infinite Crisis Legion, and villains.

My annotations for issue #1 (main, follow-up).

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Written by Geoff Johns; Art by George Pérez and Scott Koblish; Covers by George Pérez

Geoff Johns and George Perez continue crafting the Crisis of the 31st Century! As Superboy-Prime leads the Legion of Super-Villains against everything and everyone inspired by the legacy of Superman, the Legion of Super-Heroes are forced to call for help from beyond their world. Meanwhile, contingency plans are created by Brainiac 5 as he attempts to overcome Colu's devastating betrayal, Dawnstar and Wildfire pull off a startling rescue, but at a horrible cost to the universe, and Saturn Girl uncovers the source of the Legion's troubles. DC Universe | 40pg. | Color | $3.99 US On Sale October 15, 2008

Cover (full version): Three Saturn Girls, the Pre-ZH/Lightning Saga one featured, with the Post-IC version and the Post-ZH one in the background.

Cover (sliver version): Lots of Legionnaires from all three groups.

From here on, I'm going to refer to the three Legions as L1 (Pre-Crisis + Lightning Saga), L2 (Post-Zero Hour), and L3 (Post-Infinite Crisis). The "Glorithverse" Legion I'll call L1.5.

Page 1

• Shikari, of L2. They're still lost (a reference to the series "Legion Lost"). When last we saw them, they were lost in the time stream, but Shikari had discovered the L3 Earth. She briefly reunited with the team during the Infinite Crisis on Earth-247, but the team hasn't been seen since.
  
• The Legion has faded out to white with each reboot; see examples here In particular, note the last one, with the L2 Legion fading out; they fade in here much the same way.

Page 2

• Panel 1: The L1 White Witch is on the Sorcerer's World, held captive by Mordru. This echoes the Glorithverse version of the Legion; Mysa was held captive by Mordru at the beginning of the v4 series as well.
  
• Panel 2: She's also the sister of L1 Dream Girl.
  
• Panel 3: White Witch has somehow tapped into her sister's prophetic dreams. Shikari (misspelled here as "Shakari") and L2 Dreamer - not related to the White Witch in their continuity - can see into the L3 timeline.
  
• Panel 4: Lightning Lad, Light Lass, and Star Boy at the memorial statue to the deceased Dream Girl, all L3. At the foot of her statue, in Interlac it reads "Nura Nal/Dream Girl". The "Light" of the Legion - a reference to Light Lass?
  
• Panel 5: Superboy-Prime gives his rings to L1 Saturn Queen and Lightning Lord, in a dark homage to the Legion's flight rings.
  
• Panels 6-8: The Time Trapper doesn't want anyone to see any future that he doesn't control.

Page 3

• Panels 1-2: L1 Mordru and his mages have stolen her magics.
  
• Panels 3-8: it's Blok, Wildfire, and Dawnstar to her rescue. Blok and White Witch had a relationship, as did Dawnstar and Wildfire. Due to their natures, Blok and Wildfire could not have physical relationships with their partners as other humans could.

Page 5

• Panel 1: Rond Vidar, son of Universo, was a Green Lantern, a fact unknown to the Legion for most of the time they knew him. His father was a Green Lantern before him, and when he was expelled from the Green Lantern Corps, the ring passed to Xenofobe until Rond was old enough to wield the ring. By this time in the 31st century, Rond is one of only two Green Lanterns left.
  
• Panel 5: Mordru. He's got a new helmet these days.

Page 6

• Panels 2-3: Mordru calls up the dead - Glorith, Dragonmage, and Evillo. Glorith, in pre-Crisis continuity, was a minion of the Time Trapper. She failed in a mission and he turned her into protoplasm. In the L1.5 continuity, she was restored and took the place of the Time Trapper. Dragonmage was a magician who joined the SW6 Legionnaires. Evillo was another magician, the dictator of Tartarus. Mordru says that these three died at his hand; it's unclear how Glorith may have been killed by Mordru, as she was killed by the Time Trapper. This is the first we have heard that Dragonmage and Prince Evillo were killed by Mordru.

Page 7

• Panel 1: "I saw Legions dying, and I saw a new one rising." A prophecy of the future.
  
• Panel 3: The White Witch first appeared as the old crone The Hag, an associate of Prince Evillo. In her next appearance, she was young and beautiful. It was never revealed how this change took place; Mordru says here that he transformed her as he taught her magic.

Page 8

• Panel 3: Rond Vidar says that he beat Mordru once in the past. The only time they met was in L1.5 after the reformation of the Legion, so something similar must have happened in the L1 past.

Page 9-10

• The newest incarnation of the L1 Legion of Super-Villains, all wearing their S-rings. From top to bottom, left to right: Neutrax, Beauty Blaze, Golden Boy, Universo, Persuader, Terrus, Lazon; Zymyr, Tusker, Lightning Lord, Mist Master, Silver Slasher; Ol-Vir, Storm Boy, Superboy-Prime, Mano, Tyr; Emerald Empress and the Emerald Eye, Grimbor, Saturn Queen, Spider Girl, Black Mace, Esper Lass; Sun Emperor, Cosmic King, Micro Lad, Radiation Roy; Validus, Tharok, Echo, Dr. Regulus, Earth-Man, Hunter, Chameleon Chief, Titania, Magno Lad. Several of these have never been associated with the LSV before (such as Universo, the Fatal Five, Earth-Man's Justice League). There are some continuity problems with this lineup.
  
• Beauty Blaze and Echo had never appeared in the L1 timeline before, they were members of the LSV during the Adult Legion story (later revealed to be an alternate timeline). Echo "appeared" and was a Legionnaire during the Five Year Gap in the L1.5 timeline.
  
• Validus had been revealed to be the son of Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl, taken back in time and mutated by Darkseid, shortly after the end of the Crisis. He was later restored to his normal appearance as a child. Thus, it is unknown if Validus's parentage is still valid.
  
• Tharok had been killed in a clash with the Dark Man, a clone of his. He somehow returned in the L1.5 timeline, the method of resurrection not revealed (as far as I can remember). It is unknown how Tharok has been resurrected.
  
• Likewise, the Emerald Empress died immediately after the Crisis in the original L1 timeline.

Page 11

• Panels 2-5: Some of the events of the Sinestro Corps War with the Green Lanterns.

Page 12

• Panel 3: Superman says of Superboy-Prime, "... he lost everything. Earth-Prime was destroyed. His friends and family killed. He was banished to limbo for years. Who knows what that kind of isolation can do to somebody?" Umm, hello, how about Lar Gand, who you put in the Phantom Zone for a thousand years? He turned out OK.

Page 15

• Panel 2: In Interlac, the sign with the Legion "L" symbol reads "anominaly vector 386"; the sign with Dr. Regulus's head says (in mirror image) "-ulugus"

Page 18

• Panel 7: As mentioned earlier, Universo was a Green Lantern before he was expelled from the Corps. His son Rond Vidar was given his ring.

Page 19

• Panel 10: Universo refers to Rond Vidar's son. That's new; in L1.5 continuity, he had a daughter with Laurel "Andromeda" Gand.

Page 21

• Panel 4: Is Mysa saying "no" to Rond Vidar's death because she disagrees with Saturn Girl that he's dead, or is she saying "no" because she can't believe it?
  
• Panel 13: That's the lightning rod that contains what is widely theorized to be Bart Allen's energy.

Page 22

• Panel 4: The ruins of Oa. Last time we saw Oa was a flashback which showed why the Guardians were banned from Earth, due to interference from Green Lantern who would soon be known as Universo.
  
• Panel 5: Statues of past Green Lanterns, including (facing the reader) Katma Tui, John Stewart, and Guy Gardner.
  
• Panel 6: fallen statue of Hal Jordan.
  
• Panel 9: we find out who this is at the end of the story.

Page 23

• Panel 1: the Legion visits the original HQ of the Justice League of America. The cave had been used by other groups after the JLA, but appears to have been restored to the early JLA's decorations.
  
• Panel 4: Phantom Girl uses Aquaman's old security code to deactivate the alarm.
  
• Panel 6: I'm not a Silver Age JLA expert, so I'll miss many of these artifacts. That's Despero's chess set at left, Wonder Woman's shield at top, and pictures of the Demons Three (Abnegazar, Rath and Ghast) with their artifacts (the Green Bell of Uthool, the Silver Wheel of Nyorlath and the Red Jar of Calythos). The Legion met the Three and Mordru in the midst the annual team-up of the JLA and JSA when the two teams were on Earths-1 and 2, respectively (JLA 147-148).
  
• Panel 7: that's Starro, Amos Fortune's card, Amazo, and the Time Commander's helmet. The JLA of this era never fought Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor.
  
• Panel 10: With the JSA portrait in the background, Phantom Girl holds the "crystallized mexus of all earths from all parallel universes", which is how the JLA first contacted the JSA (JLA #21).

Page 24

• Panel 1: Wildfire, Dawnstar, and Polar Boy are at the Time Institute to get a Time Bubble to travel back to the 21st century for reasons as yet unknown. The Time Institute, run by Chronarch Circadia Senius, housed (among other things) the Time Beacon which allowed time travellers to home in on the correct timeline. In the background are images of time travellers Rip Hunter, Goldstar (Booster Gold's sister), Skeets, and an unidentified man (Booster Gold?).
  
• Panel 5: Mon-El and Shadow Lass are off to the Sorcerer's World and then to Oa. Those of you who have read the Sinestro Corps War should know who the Daxamite on Oa is.

Page 25

• Panel 2: White Witch mentions a red sky, a reference to the red skies of the Crisis but also a reference to The Bleed, the space in between universes. The two Legions that assisted with the Tornado Twins must be a reference to the original team-up of the Legions of Three Worlds. The Tornado Twins are Don and Dawn Allen, the twin children of Barry Allen from when he and his wife Iris were in the 30th century immediately prior to the Flash's death in the Crisis on Infinite Earths. It's not clear here which timeline the Twins belong to; the Silver Age L1 Legion first met the twins, who said they were the descendants of Barry Allen. In the L1.5 timeline, the twins were killed by the Dominators. In the L2 timeline, the twins were the parents of Bart Allen (father Don), aka Impulse, and Jenni Ognats (mother Dawn), aka XS.
  
• Panel 7: note the presence of lightning, a common symbol of the Flash family.

Page 26-27

• On the left, it's the L3 Legion; on the right, it's the L2 Legion. On the L2 side, note that Livewire is still stuck in the crystalline body of the deceased Element Lad.
  
• L3 Legion, left to right and top to bottom: Element Lad, Invisible Kid, Star Boy, Colossal Boy, Atom Girl, Saturn Girl; Triplicate Girl, Phantom Girl, Light Lass, Ultra Boy, Triplicate Girl, Lightning Lad; Projectra, Karate Kid, Chameleon Boy, Timber Wolf; Triplicate Girl, Brainiac 5, Shadow Lass
  
• L2 Legion, left to right and top to bottom: Umbra, Karate Kid, Ultra Boy, Chameleon, Triad, M'Onel, Ferro; Brainiac 5.1, Andromeda, Sensor, Star Boy, XS; Spark, Cosmic Boy, Timber Wolf, Shrinking Violet, Dreamer; Kid Quantum, Saturn Girl, Apparition; Gates, Live Wire/Element Lad, Wildfire; Triad, Invisible Kid, Shikari, Gear, Kinetix.

Page 28

• Panel 1: White Witch suggests that the L2 and L3 Legions may not be able to return home. I smell foreshadowing.
  
• Panel 9: Heh, I like the Brainys bickering. L2 Brainiac 5 refers to his time travels to the 20th century while the team was split (the other half remained in the 30th century).

Page 29

• Panels 1-6: Sun Boy is still moping. Wonder when he'll recover?

Page 30

• It's AWWWNNN!
  
• Panel 3: One of those Validuses is likely a Reep Daggle.
  
• Panel 8: Don't forget, the Time Trapper is behind everything.

Page 32

• See? It's Sodam Yat, the Daxamite Green Lantern. Geoff Johns has said this isn't just a Legion story, it contains elements of all the books he's worked on, whether it's just cameos (the Teen Titans last issue in the Superman Museum, the Rip Hunter/Booster Gold images in this issue) or major characters (Superman, from Action Comics) or storylines (the Green Lantern legacy and the Sinestro Corps War). At this point, Sodam Yat is over 1000 years old, having been introduced in the Sinestro Corps storyline, where he was destined to be one of the greatest Green Lanterns. He was last known in the 21st century as Ion.

One thing to note: Since we see Sodam Yat here, that pretty much confirms that this version of the 31st century is the future of the current DC Universe (or rather, that of New Earth of the 52-Earth Multiverse). Until recently, it had been strongly suggested that the L3 Legion's 31st century was the future of the mainstream DCU.

Legion of Substitute Podcasters

I'm not quite sure who these guys are Subs for, but there's a site that just went live that features Legion-oriented podcasts (mp3 files for downloading or streaming). They call themselves the Legion of Substitute Podcasters, and they can be found at http://www.legionofsubstitutepodcasters.com/. I've also added them to my blogroll on the left.

We’ve heard that people have a tough time understanding the Legion of Super Heroes. It’s hard to keep track of which Lad, Lass, Boy or Girl is which.

Let us make that a lot easier for you.

Join Paul French, Ric Croxton, Darren Nowell, and our mystery Legionnaire for a fun ride through the history of the future!

Their first podcast, featuring Adventure 247, is up.

(Via Tales from the Longbox)

Smallville spoilers!

Update: this isn't new news, it's been on the Kryptonsite spoilers page for a couple weeks.

Via Tombstone25, here's an alleged summary of the Legion episode of "Smallville". Warning, here be potential spoilers!

- 8x11 Legion:
This episode is written by Geoff Johns and directed by Glen Winter. It's three superheroes - Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad (although they might not use those names) — on a mission from Superman in the future. The threat of Brainiac - who has taken over Chloe's body - brings three super-heroes from the future back to the past. Eventually they work together to try and separate Chloe from her Brainiac side. This episode features a Legion villain that Johns himself is surprised he was able to use. No word on who yet, but it could be Darkseid, Mordru, or the Time Trapper. Erica Durance [Lois Lane], Aaron Ashmore [Jimmy Olsen], Cassidy Freeman [Tess], and Justin Hartley [Oliver Queen/Green Arrow] do not appear in this episode.

I have no reason to believe this is a hoax or otherwise false, but I also have no independent confirmation.

This is one of the episodes that Kristin Kreuk [Lana Lang] appears. Insect Queen, anyone? Too bad Jimmy Olsen's not in this one, no Elastic Lad.

Legion of Three Worlds #2 out this week

Looks like it'll be a late night for me this Wednesday as I put up the annotations for L3W #2.

Inker Scott Koblish has a few teasers for us on his page. From last Monday:

Issue number two of FC: Legion of 3 Worlds comes out in around 8 days, I'm exceptionally proud of how well that book came out - I've seen the color and Brian Miller and co. did an absolutely fantastic job. I don't think i've ever been on a book where there have been as many individual characters, just a cursory count puts it at well over 100, and Brian did mersmerizingly great work. I wish I could share it with everybody right now, but patience is a virtue, and good things come to those who wait.

And from today, with a sneak preview of Blok rescuing the White Witch while whooping up on some zombie skeletons:

Lotsa stuff in issue 2: Lotsa villains, lotsa Legionnaires. Hope everyone likes it.

Trivia Quiz #28

The new Legion of Super-Villains team in "Legion of Three Worlds" is a collection of the worst of the worst bad guys who have plagued the Legion over the years. (Note that issue #2 is scheduled for next week, October 15th; issue #3 for Dec. 3rd; and issue #4 for Dec. 24th.) Here are some villainous questions:

1. Who was Jan Jor?

2. Which villain(s) possessed all (or nearly all) of the Legionnaires' powers?

3. We know who used the names Bob Cobb, Betsy Norcross, and Marie Elkins while in 20th century Smallville fleeing Mordru. But what were their cover stories: who were Bob, Betsy, and Marie?

4. Of the members of the LSV, who were direct (or nearly so) counterparts of Legionnaires in terms of powers?

5. Which non-Legionnaire helped the Legion defeat Mordru in his first appearance?

6. On the other hand, which two then-active Legionnaires did not help fight Darkseid in the Great Darkness Saga, and why?

7. Which Legion-centric alien races, pretty much never before seen in the 20th century, aided in the invasion of Earth in the INVASION! miniseries?

BONUS ROUND

8. In "honor" of the impending cancellation of LSH v5 with #50 and the inevitable subsequent relaunch of LSH v6 #1, name as many of the issue #1's the Legion has ever had as you can. Include series and miniseries starring individual Legionnaires, small groups of Legionnaires, or anyone closely related to the Legion.

L3W sales figures

A couple of months ago I set up a poll to see what you thought the sales would look like on the first issue of "Legion of Three Worlds". Well, the results are in.

It's a good thing that exactly 100 people voted. That makes the math much easier. The most popular vote was 60,001-70,000 with 27%, followed by 50,001-60,000 at 23%. Actual sales as reported by THE BEAT: 68,306. (I had predicted a start in the 70s, so I wasn't far off.)

Here's how the sales data for the Final Crisis spinoffs were interpreted at our official source for sales data, THE BEAT:

20 - FINAL CRISIS: LEGION OF 3 WORLDS
08/2008: Legion of 3 Worlds #1 of 3 — 68,306

22 - DC UNIVERSE: LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT
08/2008: Last Will and Testament #1 — 67,063

26 - FINAL CRISIS: SUPERMAN BEYOND
08/2008: Superman Beyond #1 of 2 — 63,137

29 - FINAL CRISIS: REVELATIONS
08/2008: Revelations #1 of 5 — 58,434

Following the pattern established by Final Crisis and Final Crisis: Rogues’ Revenge, August’s new set of spin-off titles all come in with underwhelming sales.

They seem to be in the same league as the competition’s Secret Invasion: Thor, Secret Invasion: X-Men and Secret Invasion: The Amazing Spider-Man, granted, but let’s keep in mind that those books provide random and repetitive punch-’em-ups which are cursory at best to Secret Invasion proper. The Final Crisis spin-offs, on the other hand, were promoted as major parts of the storyline and are by the company’s top-flight creative personnel.

That none of them managed to crack 70,000 units certainly supports the notion that the market was tired of Final Crisis long before the first issue shipped. The fact that their debut issues are all cuddling up within 10,000 units of each other also suggests that retailers didn’t quite know what to do with them, mind you, so it’s still possible that we’re going to see some major corrections in the next few months.

Record of gimmicks: All of these comics were supported with 50/50 variant-cover editions. All of them had a $ 3.99 price tag, except for Final Crisis: Superman Beyond #1, which was $ 4.50 and came with a set of cardboard 3D goggles.

Polls are still open for your prediction on the final issue.

More other stuff

More stuff:

• Slay, Monstrobot of the Deep!! on the LSH v5 cancellation:
  

  But I still think DC treated [Shooter] badly. After months of rumors that he was being canned from Legion, and months of speculation that Legion of 3 Worlds meant that Geoff Johns' version of the Legion was taking over, DC made only the most terse and non-committal of public denials. And now the other shoe drops--he's not being replaced, Legion is being canceled. Before Shooter's storyline is fully finished. Just coincidentally immediately after LO3W finishes.
  
  ... So. After all the fanfare about hiring him, it's buh-bye. Go peddle your wares elsewhere. DC used Shooter as stunt casting, and then tossed him aside. Whether it's because the sales were too low, or because Geoff Johns cleared his throat, Shooter deserved better.
  
  Secondly, we should note that the while Legion has been on "hiatus" before, the was usually an intervening mini-series, such as Legion Lost or Legion Worlds. DC may already have something planned, and is just playing this pretty close to the vest until they're ready to announce. But if they don't, this "hiatus" will mean that, for the first time in almost half a century, DC won't be publishing any Legion of Super-Heroes. Happy 50th, Legion!!

  
  
• Howard Chaykin interviewed Adam Hughes at Baltimore last weekend. One topic that came up was the alternate cover Hughes did of Supergirl for the Legion book:
  

  Hughes explained why he was drawn to comics as opposed to advertising, where his slick artistic style could make him a lot of money. The answer for Hughes? Total creative freedom. “DC asked me for a cover of Supergirl at one point,” Hughes said. “But they didn’t tell me anything else. I was like — any editorial direction, please? Is she in a bikini? A parka? What?” Hughes then said that very cover soon became a poster and a print.

  
  
  
• Wizard has a quick look at the main good guys and bad guys in "Legion of Three Worlds".
  
  
• I missed it here, but last month's issue of Comics Buyer's Guide #1646 (Oct. 2008) had the Legion on the cover, for an L3W story. The article has a history of the Legion, interviews with Johns and Perez, and an article by Andrew "Captain Comics" Smith on the Legion Roll Call (for the Legion up to the Crisis). Smith's roll call is very impressive, including not only the Legion of Super-Pets but also False Pretenses Lad (named "Some Guy in a Yellow Jumpsuit" here).
  
  
  
  Part 1 of Smith's roll call can be found on the CBG site as a pdf download. Part 2 is also available and covers the post-Zero Hour reboot and the current version, plus an explanation of the publishing history (and all those titles named "Legion of Super-Heroes").
  
  This is last month's issue so you might not be able to find it on the newsstand. Here's a copy on eBay.
  
  
• Tim Callahan checked out some of Jim Shooter's scripts in Baltimore.
  

  But I did get a chance to thumb through a few of Shooter's Legion of Super-Heroes scripts at the Baltimore Comic-Con, and I found them to be fascinating. Not because of the quality of the writing, necessarily, but because of their density, and their length. I've seen a few scripts by some of today's top writers -- Morrison, Fraction, Aaron -- and all of them have relatively short panel descriptions and just maybe a few quick links to online reference material. Shooter's scripts are not quite Alan Moore thick, but they're close. Each one must have been about 50 or 60 pages, including extensive panel descriptions and lengthy supplemental material with images and descriptions of the look Shooter was going for.

  
  

Cancellation followups

Kevin Melrose at Blog@Newsarama asked me yesterday if I had anything to say about the LSH v5 cancellation. He ultimately didn't use anything I said, choosing to run some good quotes by the Legion Abstract's Matthew Elmslie instead.

“The Threeboot Legion never really lived up to its potential,” said Elmslie, who contributed to Timothy Callahan’s Teenagers From the Future: Essays on the Legion of Super-Heroes. “Mark Waid, followed ably by [Tony] Bedard and Shooter, built a lot of strengths into it, including a plausible, well-conceived premise for the Legion’s place in the world, and the strongest and most subtle characterization the Legionnaires have ever had. (And Kitson’s art — followed ably by [Dennis] Calero and Manapul — was tremendous.) But the stories were too long and slow, the villains were mostly ciphers, and fans were split on whether Waid’s innovations were any good or not. Still, if we had to pick one of the three Legions to star in a comic book … the Threeboot version has the most story potential going forward.”

Meanwhile, remember how Rich Johnston kept insisting that "the New York bar scene" said that Shooter had quit the Legion? Apparently, not so much, actually. Shooter says he was notified last month of the impending cancellation (in time to wrap up his 16-issue arc in 12 issues).

And remember how he said that Tony Bedard would be writing the Legion after Shooter's run was over? Oops, what he really meant was that Bedard would be writing a L.E.G.I.O.N. book. Slight difference.

In the wake of the “Legion Of Superheroes” cancellation LITG’d back here, I can confirm that Tony Bedard is writing a new “L.E.G.I.O.N” series based on the eighties/nineties series.

At that older link, he wrote:

More San Diego creator talk tells me that the Jim Shooter’s "Legion Of Super Heroes" title ends with issue #50.

It will be replaced with a new Tony Bedard LSH project, and the Levitz/Giffen Legion project will also see publication.

Here's what we discussed in this space at the time. And I'm sure that someone in the comments here noticed that issue 50 would be roughly concurrent with the end of L3W, so it's not like it was a major stretch to link the two.

Shooter, interviewed by Newsarama as published on Aug. 19th (boldface added by me):

NRAMA: ...Do you think the Legion will be around another 50 years from now?

JS: It wouldn’t surprise me. There’s something wonderful about this series. Even if it were to go away for a while, it’ll be back.

Think he might have been hinting at something?

Some discussion over at Millarworld, ComicBloc, the DC Message Board, and LegionWorld. Jason Grey's Foenix site and Alan Kistler at ComicMix also weigh in.

Tom Spurgeon, at the Comics Reporter:

...Not that DC canceling stuff or a Legion title biting the dust is ever news, but I had to wonder: how many times out in official fashion is that for this series? Six? Seven? Eight?

Jef Peckham, over on the Legion mailing lists, wrote that he met Shooter at the Baltimore con this past weekend. Shooter told him that his arc was plotted to go to issue 54, and that almost all (but not all) of the subplots would be wrapped up by issue 50.

Other stuff

So here's a bunch of stuff I was going to get to before we heard about the latest cancellation (more on that in another post, this is for non-cancellation stuff), still trying to dig out from under my Hurricane Ike-imposed internet blackout.

• The Comic Treadmill reviews Adventure Comics 367-369. Oh noes, they're almost at the end of reviewing the entire Adventure run!
  
• Writer J. Torres explains what he had planned for the LSH31C comic, had it not been cancelled.
  
• John Kahane lists his top 5 bad ideas in Legion history.
  
• This unfortunately came and went during my down-time, but "Ordinary People Change the World" had a Legion-related auction. The group, started by author Brad Meltzer, is raising money to restore the Jerry Siegel home in Cleveland, coming from Siegel & Shuster Society Charity Auction (as seen in this CBR article). Mark Waid had donated the original Curt Swan cover to the Legion Index #2, and it sold for $7600 on eBay.
  
• ToonZone has a review of the LSH v3 DVD (that's the cartoon, not the 1980s comic series).
  
• Someone's got a couple of rare Legion promo items on eBay from the 1980s, the first being the 35th Anniversary promo from 1983 and the second being the "Flight Ring Village" promo from 1989. At this writing they're $3.99 each with no bids.
  
• Christopher "MightyGodKing" Bird has reason #45 why he should write the Legion.
  

Also coming out of Baltimore, apparently prior to the cancellation news, was this info from the Superman panel, which hints at more of the Johns post-Crisis v3-ish Legion:

The Supergirl/Superman interaction with the Legion of Super-Heroes was asked about, given that Superman now had spent time with the "original" Legion and Supergirl logged some hours alongside Waid and Kitson's “threeboot” Legion. Geoff Johns assured the fans that the overlap would be made clear.

...The current reintroduction of the Science Police was brought up and it was asked if they were tied to the Legion Science Police. Robinson promised an upcoming arc featuring the secret behind the Science Police.

...The Superman team does have plans for Mon-El.

Déjà Vu 16: Coming soon, v6 #1

Here are the first issues of v1, v2, v3, v4, and v5. Coming soon: v6 #1.

LSH v5 Cancelled with #50

As has been speculated and predicted, the current Legion series will end with issue #50, according to news out of the Baltimore Comic Con.

Via Newsarama:

DC Comics confirmed for Newsarama at Baltimore Comic Con that Legion of Super-Heroes, the ongoing series that relaunched the fan-favorite, teenage team from the future, will be canceled with issue #50 after a four-year run.

"We're going to bring a close to the Legion of Super-Heroes now," said DC Senior VP and Executive Editor Dan DiDio. "There's a lot going on with the characters. I thought that [writer] Jim [Shooter] and [artist] Francis [Manapul] have done a terrific job with the series, and '50' seemed like a really nice number to bring this series to a conclusion."

However, Legion characters aren't going away, DiDio said. "We've got a lot of plans and a lot of thought for the Legion right now, but coming out of the Legion of 3 Worlds, we're going to let the characters rest for a little bit and see where we go from there," he said.

Shooter, the current writer of the Legion of Super-Heroes ongoing comic, told Newsarama in Baltimore that he found out about a month ago that the series was canceled with Issue #50.

"It's a drag, but I get to finish most of my story. It would have finished in Issue #54, but Issue #50 is going to be a 30-page story, and I'm hoping people will be intrigued enough that they'll want to finish the story. So we'll see," Shooter said. "I understand new comics sales are not doing so well right now. Which is weird. Just look at this crowd. Everyone seems so excited about comics. They're buying something."

Shooter said his story will come to a climax in the next few issues as he finishes up the "One Evil" storyline.

...Because he's been writing the Legion so much lately, Johns has been asked frequently by fans during DC panels at conventions if he would write the team in an ongoing series. His answer has always been that he'd love to do it. So Newsarama asked DiDio: Is it possible there will be a Johns-penned series featuring the Legion of Super-Heroes in the future?

"You know what? I think we'd love Geoff to write everything right now. But realistically, he's got a pretty full slate with everything that's going on," DiDio said. "He's got Flash, Green Lantern, JSA, Action, and specials coming up because this thing called Blackest Night is looming. But I'm sure that the Legion will stay close to Geoff and near and dear to him as well, and you'll probably see some of them appear through some of his runs down the line. I don't want to give too much away. But there's always plans for the Legion. They're an important part of the DC Universe. And more importantly, I think we've done a great job with the story. I think Jim and Francis have done a great job bringing it to an end. And after Legion of 3 Worlds, there will be more opportunities, so we're going to explore those after that series concludes."

More to come, obviously.

Déjà Vu 15: What the L?

Baltimore Comic Con 08: DC Nation

At this weekend's Baltimore Comic Con, here's the Legion news from the DC Nation panel.

Via CBR:

Geoff Johns added that the Legion of Super Heroes appearance in “Smallville” will be airing in February. There will be a villain from the Legion’s time that Johns can’t believe they let him use.

Via Newsarama:

Q: Who’s in the lightning rod the Legion has?
A: Johns: “We will see that in Legion of 3 Worlds #3.”

Q: What story is Johns telling with the Legion on Smallville?
A: “If you know the origin, you know the story that’s coming,” Johns said. “But there is a villain from the Legion’s time that I can’t believe they let me put in there.”

Q: Is there any Legion of Super-Heroes news about the future of the team?
A: Johns: “The future of the Legion of Super-Heroes is in Legion of 3 Worlds - and it will have a lot of stuff in it that will affect the modern day DCU.”

Q: Is Glorith in Legion of 3 Worlds?
A: Johns: “She’s mentioned. You might now be happy about it.”
[Wonder if this is a typo, if it should be "not" instead of "now".]

Q: Will the Legion appear in more than the one episode of Smallville?
A: It’s a one episode thing, Johns said, adding that the appearance will have ramifications throughout the season.

More Bad Ideas

A few posts down, I asked you for what you thought were "the five worst ideas in the 50 year history of the Legion".

Here are mine, in chronological order:

1. "How about if we take our two top-selling books in the entire company, make them direct-sales only, and then replace the regular book with reprints?"

2. "These Bierbaums, they're long-time fans. Even though they have limited industry experience, they must have some good ideas. Let's pair them with a strong co-writer and a hands-off editor."

3. "Don't worry, the Superman reboot won't affect the Legion. We have a fool-proof plan to keep everything in continuity."

4. "Legion continuity is irretrievably broken. We have no choice but to completely reboot the series."

5. "Let's reboot the series again. We can get new readers, obliquely tie into a popular miniseries, and besides, the fans are already used to reboots."

The Amazing Race's Legion fans

I don't know about the rest of you, but "The Amazing Race" is one of my favorite shows on TV, and it's just about the only "reality" show I really want to be on. In a nutshell, in case you're unfamiliar with it, teams of two people (with a pre-existing relationship, like friends/co-workers/siblings/etc.) travel around the world following clues and performing activities local to that location; the last to check in at a designated pit stop is eliminated. It's way better than I just made it sound, though.

Anyway, one of the teams this year is Mark and Bill. They are racing to fill the "nerd team" slot on the show. They're actually Mark Yturralde and Bill Kahler, longtime friends and comic book fans. Mark is the Treasurer for the San Diego Comic-Con (who I actually met once, years ago, making him the only Racer I've ever met).

Here's an excerpt from an interview they did with Reality Heaven:

Reality Heaven: When did you both begin collecting comic books?

Mark: I have always loved comics as far as I can remember. I remember the 1st comic I bought with my own money was the wedding of Sue and Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four.

Bill: I remember reading other kids’ comic books when I was really young, but I’m pretty sure my first comic book purchase was Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes #201. It was one of those 100-page comic books they used to sell in the 1970s; I think I got it because it was extra-big, but still just “one comic book”. [Note: the 100-Page Giant issues were actually #202, 205, and 208; #201 was a regular sized issue.]

Reality Heaven: Favorite artists?

Mark: David Lapham, Alex Ross, Brent Anderson, Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio, Dean Yeagle, Joe Chido, Joe Linser

Bill: Mike Grell (who drew _Legion_ back when I started reading it), John Cassaday (_Planetary_), Alex Ross, Dave McKean, Dave Gibbons, Brian Bolland, Adam Hughes

Reality Heaven: Favorite superheroes, if any?

Mark: Mr. Fantastic, Green Lantern, The Metal Men, Black Canary, Firestorm, Legion of Super Heroes.

Bill: Batman, Firestorm, The Doom Patrol, Spider-Man, and the Legion of Super-Heroes.

(False alert) Animated Emerald Empress doesn't return

Update: Never mind. Ben Jones, one of the B&B producers, said the Empress "news" stems from a false report. Disregard what you read below. These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along, move along.

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Via LegionWorld I found this on World's Finest:

The World's Finest has obtained the updated character roster for the upcoming Batman: The Brave and The Bold animated series.

Below is the updated list of characters scheduled to appear on Batman: The Brave and The Bold alongside Batman, in alphabetical order and divided by status.

On the list is the Emerald Empress.

That's all I know so far.

L3W RRP variant

At last weekend's Diamond Retailer Summit in Las Vegas, one of the RRP (Retailer Roundtable Program) variants given out was a sketch cover of "Legion of 3 Worlds" #1:

Here's the link to the ebay auctions if you want to buy one.

Talk Like a Pirate Day 2008: Dynamo Boy

Today is International Talk Like a Pirate Day. This year's pirate honoree is Dynamo Boy, aka Vorm of New Tortuga.

From Who's Who in the LSH #2:

One of the children born to pirate inhabitants of New Tortuga, Vorm enjoyed the exciting, dangerous life there and learned pirate ways quickly. When the pirates' leader asked for a young volunteer to infiltrate the Legion, Vorm stepped forward and killed an opponent to win the "honor". The pirates gave him a hidden belt device with which he simulated special energy-wielding powers in front of Star Boy, who was impressed enough to bring him to the next Legion tryouts. Dynamo Boy passed all tests quickly and gained membership, then proceeded to secretly sabotage all his teammates during ensuing missions and use loopholes in the Legion Constitution to have them expelled. Eventually, Vorm ended up being the only Legionnaire left. Holding tryouts for new members, he screened all applicants to find those whom he might possibly corrupt to his own ends, butg he had no luck until three adults claiming to be Cosmic King, Saturn Queen, and Lightning Lord of the Legion of Super-Villains showed up and offered their serves. The four "Legionnaires" posed as heroes in public, covering their private thievery.

Vorm returned to New Tortuga to report his success and ended up killing the pirate leader in order to establish his supremacy on his own home planet. However, when he returned to Earth, he walked into an LSV trap which sent him off irretrievably into Earth's far future. Once he was gone, the super-villains were defeated by the Legionnaires, who had returned to Earth once they had become aware of Vorm's sinister motives. All expelled members were readmitted. Vorm has not been seen since.

First (and only appearance): ADV 330-331, and he didn't even make the cover of either.

See for yourself:

• Paul & John Review Dynamo Boy
  
• The Silver Age Legion (ADV 330 and ADV 331)
  
• The Comic Treadmill (ADV 330 and ADV 331)

Bad ideas

Via The BEAT, here's an article about "the five worst ideas in the history of comics".

Let's hear from you: what would you consider to be the five worst ideas in the 50 year history of the Legion?

Baltimore Comic Con next weekend

Sneaking up on us next weekend is the Baltimore Comic Con, on Saturday and Sunday.

Among the scheduled guests with a significant Legion history are (alphabetically listed by first name - how odd!) Barry Kitson, Geoff Johns, Jim Shooter, Mark Waid, and Stuart Immonen.

I can't find a list of programming there, if there is any.

Anyone planning on going?

Legion #700?

Over at Blog@Newsarama, Tom "Grumpy Old Fan" Bondurant discusses the latest DC solicitations, and notes this:

Obviously DC has sentimental reasons for keeping Action Comics, Detective Comics, Superman, and Batman in their original numbering. Action and Detective are in the high 800s, and Superman and Batman are in the high 600s. However, the other five “foundational” titles (Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Justice League of America, and Legion of Super-Heroes) have each been restarted with new first issues within the past five years, despite the youngest of them (JLA, by my estimation) being in the neighborhood of fifty years old.

... Additionally, if my math is right,* the January issue of Legion of Super-Heroes could be #700, as well as being the current title’s issue #50.

* [The original title picked up Superboy's numbering and ended with issue #325. Vol. 2 {actually v3} ended with #63, vol. 3 {v4} with #125, and Legionnaires -- which effectively made the Legion a biweekly title -- ended with #81. Add to that 12 issues of Legion Lost + 6 Legion Worlds + 38 The Legion + 49 current issues = 699.]

I think I disagree with using the Legionnaires title in the numbering. The stories didn't continue from one title to the other back and forth like a true bi-weekly. I do agree with Legion Lost and Legion Worlds, though, as they were the only Legion book at the time and theoretically could have been story arcs in a hypothetical main title rather than miniseries. He also rightly skips the #0 and #1000000 issues in the numbering, just like the other series did at the time.

Coming Distractions: Dec. 2008

FINAL CRISIS: LEGION OF THREE WORLDS #4
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by George Pérez & Scott Koblish
Covers by George Pérez
Don't miss this issue as lightning strikes again in the DC Universe! The Crisis of the 31st century continues as a great hero falls and another returns to help Superman and the Legion combat the murderous Superboy-Prime! Meanwhile, the Time Trapper makes his move against the three Legion founders, Polar Boy's bizarre mission comes to an end and Superman makes a shocking discovery that will redefine the terms of this war.
Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers by George Pérez that will ship in approximately 50/50 ratio. Please see the Previews Order Form for more information.
On sale December 24 • 4 of 5 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US



THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #49
Written by Jim Shooter
Art and cover by Francis Manapul & Livesay
Timber Wolf goes berserk! A Legion Espionage Squad risks death to explore the heavily defended Intruder Planet. Lightning Lad finds comfort in the arms of...the president? Meanwhile, Phantom Girl is catastrophically injured, and she’ll never be the same again! All this, and the beginning of the Universal Annihilation War!
On sale December 31 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US



JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #22
Written by Geoff Johns & Alex Ross
Art by Alex Ross and Dale Eaglesham & Nathan Massengill
Cover by Alex Ross
Variant cover by Dale Eaglesham & Nathan Massengill
Concluding the sequel to KINGDOM COME and featuring several pages of painted interiors by Alex Ross! The Justice Society have had their greatest wishes granted, but at what deadly price? As war breaks out among the Justice Society, the cost of Gog's watchful eye comes to light. But removing Gog from Earth will cost more than they could ever imagine. This finale will leave the Justice Society torn apart...and see a new team rise out of the ashes!
Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers. For every 10 copies of the Standard Edition (with a cover by Alex Ross), retailers may order one copy of the Variant Edition (with a cover by Dale Eaglesham & Nathan Massengill). Please see the Previews Order Form for more information.
On sale December 31 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US



JUSTICE VOL. 3 TP
Written by Jim Krueger & Alex Ross
Art by Doug Braithwaite & Alex Ross
Cover by Alex Ross
The final volume of the lushly illustrated maxiseries, featuring issues #9-12, is now available in trade paperback! The Super-Villains' plot to exploit the innocent thickens as the heroes discover that it may even affect their comrades! Guest-starring Black Adam, The Marvel Family, Doom Patrol, The Metal Men, The Titans, Supergirl and more!
Advance-solicited; on sale January 7 • 160 pg, FC, $14.99 US

The Legion appears in the final pages.



JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA: THE LIGHTNING SAGA TP
Written by Brad Meltzer & Geoff Johns
Art by Ed Benes, Shane Davis, Dale Eaglesham, Jim Lee, Adam Kubert, George Pérez and othersCover by Alex Ross
Two super-teams join forces in this volume collecting JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #0 and #8-12 and JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #5-6! The JLA has discovered the presence of several members of the Legion of Super-Heroes in the present!
Advance-solicited; on sale January 21 • 224 pg, FC, $12.99 US



DC COMICS CLASSICS LIBRARY: THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES – THE LIFE AND DEATH OF FERRO LAD HC
Written by Jim Shooter
Art by Curt Swan, Sheldon Moldoff & George Klein
Cover by Curt Swan & George Klein
Collecting ADVENTURE COMICS #346, 347, 352, 353 and 357! The Legion battles both the Fatal Five and the Sun Eater – and only the ultimate sacrifice can save Ferro Lad’s friends!
Advance-solicited; on sale February 18 • 128 pg, FC , $39.99 US

That's a lot for such a slim volume. I guess they're not going to put in the "lost" flashback story, the clone story, or an origin story.

Guess who's back? Right!

Well that was an interesting few days.

I've got some damage to my roof and about half my fence is down, but I've got power (returned on Sunday), water (returned on Monday), TV, internet (returned on Wednesday), and a roof over my head. That's more than can be said for a lot of people around here, some just blocks away. I'm doing what I can for those less fortunate than me, when I have time. It'll be a long expensive road to recovery for this area.

For pictures I've taken over the last few days, here's a map of the area showing what's where, (or go here for just the pictures).

Thanks to everyone who commented in the last couple of posts, for all your good wishes. They certainly didn't hurt.

In answer to Jim, who asked about Katrina and Rita in 2005: That actually played a huge part in how things were handled for Ike in 2008. Hurricane Rita targeted Houston about a month after Katrina hit New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands evacuated New Orleans and came to Houston for shelter. So Katrina's flooding was very fresh on the minds of Houstonians (even though had Katrina hit here, we wouldn't have flooded because we're above ground, unlike New Orleans), and as a city, we panicked (not me, though). Millions of people fled our city, leading to traffic jams with hours-long backups (imagine 18 hours to go 200 miles). In the aftermath of that storm - which took a late northerly jog and hit well east of Houston - there were a lot of lessons learned, some good and some bad. Houston did much better this time at planning for and reacting to Hurricane Ike, but at the same time too many people remember getting burned by evacuating "for nothing" from Rita in 2005 and stayed put when they should have gone. Too many decided to ride out the storm and assumed that this storm would change track just like Rita did, and got caught when it didn't. Galveston, for example, had about 95% evacuate for Rita but only 60% for Ike. And when they ignored the evacuation order and the storm hit, the rescue workers had to say "I'm sorry we can't send anyone out, you'll have to wait til morning" when those who stayed called 911 in the middle of the night.

As with all major disasters (ObLSH: Karate Kid once fought Major Disaster), there have been screwups and miscommunications from the federal, state, and local levels, but that's to be expected no matter what's going on, and no matter where it happens.

It's a good thing "Legion of 3 Worlds" #2 isn't out this week. Our comics are delayed by UPS til Friday. My comic shop guy said that UPS told them that they are more backed up now than at Christmastime.

Omnicom powered down

I made it thru Hurricane Ike just fine but my house wasn't so lucky. No power or water & roof damage plus half my fences down. So without internet access I won't be posting for a while.

So this will be an open topic until I get back. Post your links to stuff I should read when I get back too.

See you in the future!

I Don't Like Ike

Too bad Storm Boy could only create weather (albeit artificially) and not control it. We could use some help with Hurricane Ike, ready to barrel down on Houston with 100 mph winds. I was planning to ride the storm out but some models are predicting 20 foot storm surges, which is about the limit of what my house can stand before flooding. I'll have to balance evacuating with how bad it looks like it's going to be, and when to leave without getting stuck in traffic.

I'll be liveblogging the storm at my other (rarely-used) site and on Twitter (@mgrabois). The Houston Chronicle and Weather Underground have good coverage.

Dr. Mayavale may like Ike, but I don't right now. Probably not going to be posting much here this weekend as I'll be in shop/board/hunker/recovery mode.

There once was a Legionnaire from Nantucket...

A couple of posts back in the comments, Rivers mentioned that someone had some Legionnaire limericks. They are surprisingly G-rated, as compared to some of the PG-13 ones he's got; of course, limericks are typically much naughtier (as suggested by the title of this post). Here are Michael X. MacArthur's tributes to Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Boy.

My challenge: create an existing Legionnaire limerick. If you want to be dirty, that's fine, just replace the naughty words with some dashes or something.

Here's one to start you off:

Jimmy Olsen was a Lad named Elastic
He could stretch his whole body like plastic
He thought in his head,
"I'm Mr. Action in bed
And the ladies all call me fantastic."

Update: here's the partial limerick from the big HQ map in LSH v4 #26, as mentioned in the comments.

Trivia Answers #27

Here be the answers to the Dawnstar trivia quiz. I came up with some questions and Greybird helped me with some.

1. Name one of the two jobs she had before she joined the Legion.

In her debut story ("Superboy" #226), she said that she had "guided hunters to snare helpless beasts." In her origin story ("Superboy" #240), she described having been a navigator in deep space for commercial craft.

2. What was the Grand Tour, and what happened at the end of it?

The Grand Tour was a traditional journey in her culture throughout the galaxy, upon reaching age 18, to find self-knowledge and, potentially, to gain a mental image of one's future mate. Wildfire showed up at the end and she thought he was distracting her, but then realized that he appeared as his soulmate.

3. What were her parents' names?

Mist-Rider was her father, and Moonwalker was her mother.

4. Who was her roommate at the Legion Academy, and who were some of the other people in the Academy at the time?

Her roommate was Laurel Kent. Her fellow Academy members, as seen in the flashback story in "Superboy and the Legion" #240, were Shadow Kid (Grev Mallor) and Jed Rikane, in addition to Laurel.

5. How did she lose her wings?

This was never shown or described, but she was depicted as not having them when she reappeared (LSH v4 #5) as "Bounty." Her later dis-possession by the Bounty spirit never revealed exactly what had happened to her.

Incidentally, it came up in the comments that the bounty hunter Bounty (from S/LSH 234, who hunted the Composite Legionnaire) was related to Dawnstar. From "Who's Who in the LSH", which came up with back stories on many characters that have since been accepted as canon, Jaeger Tallspirit's father was from Starhaven and was a cousin of Dawnstar.

6. Who was her partner in the private investigation firm she worked at?

As Bounty, she worked with Celeste Rockfish.

7. Mike Grell designed Dawnstar's look and contributed the cover to her first appearance, but didn't do the interior art (he also did a few subsequent covers). What was the only time Grell got to draw her in interior art?

I thought the only issue was That Damned Tabloid with the wedding of Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl. However, Ken Austin reminded me that Grell redrew the wedding scene for LSH v3 #45, the 30th anniversary issue. So technically there's one answer - the wedding scene/issue - that appeared in two places. Sort of, I guess.

Again, Greybird helped out with these. Thanks for the extra Q&A!

New Shooter interview

Glamazonia, an Italian comics site, has a new interview with Jim Shooter. (Note that any alleged rumors about his future on the title are not mentioned.)

The interview is here, with the Italian translation up top and then scroll halfway down to the English. Shooter discusses his writing style and the state of the industry today.

From the interview:

I don’t do anything “generic,” I hope. I start by thinking about events that might be in the story, the effects those events might have upon the characters and, conversely, how the characters would shape the events. I think about what is, or might be at stake, both in plot terms and in human terms. This is very much a freewheeling process—I play “what if...?” a lot and imagine recklessly. No thought, no idea is too far out at this stage. Nothing is out of bounds. Usually, I write down pages and pages of notes—ideas, snippets of dialogue that occur to me, character bits, scene ideas, real events from my own life that relate, events from the lives of people I know or have heard tell of that relate; whatever. I make lists of words or things that relate to the ideas that come up — for instance, if the story might involve the sea, I’ll probably make lists of nautical terms, fish, ships, etc. Free association. I do a great deal of research into the ideas that come up. At first, the research is speculative—just poking around for more items to include in my notes and lists—but as I become more sure that something is going to end up in the script, the research becomes more focused. I even make sketches.

While doing all of the above, I’m also thinking about what I have to say about the subjects that emerge. Do I have any insight I can offer? A new thought, a new way to look at something…or an “observation about the human condition,” as a former publisher I knew used to say. I’m not talking about building a corny moral into the story, or some stupid lesson; not just a stupid irony, or even a clever O. Henry-style irony. I’m talking about things that make the reader say, “I never thought of things that way before,” or “I’ve never seen anything like that before,” or “I know just how that character feels,” or “I understand that more deeply, or in a different way, now,” or...whatever.

For instance, my ongoing Legion of Super-Heroes story, entitled “One Evil,” has a subplot about a leadership crisis. I know about such things from both sides—being the leader of an organization in difficult times and being a follower in such a situation. I have plenty to say about that subject, plenty of insights to offer. If I can convey to the readers something new via the characters involved, what they go through and the way they go through it, that’s a good thing.

A second article has (in Italian) a biography of Shooter and reviews of some trade paperbacks reprinting his work, from the Legion Showcase to Secret Wars to Star Brand, Magnus, and his new work on the Legion. Next, in both Italian and English, the first two pages of Shooter's script to LSH v5 #45, along with Francis Manapul's artwork for those pages. As an added bonus, we see Manapul's evolution of the cover artwork for that issue.

Here's how the description of the splash starts out (but not the whole thing):

PAGE ONE:

Panel 1 (FULL PAGE SPLASH):

Scene: The BRIDGE at Legion HQ. Present are LIGHTNING LAD, BRAINIAC 5, ELEMENT LAD, PHANTOM GIRL and M’RISSEY. Show them all, but feature M’rissey in this shot, front and center, and right beside him, Lightning Lad. They should be fairly close up, cropped, if that works. They’re facing the BIG SCREEN, which you established at the end of last issue.

What we saw on the Big Screen last issue was the image of U.P. PRESIDENT KIESELBACH and behind her, a couple of military and technical people and a screen or display of some sort of a strange-looking planet that I called the INTRUDER PLANET.

Now, here’s the tricky part—either the screen and President Kieselbach are off panel, i.e., our camera is between the screen and the Legionnaires (and M’rissey), facing them, which is the easy way out; or the camera is, to some extent, behind the translucent, holographic screen so we see a bit of the Legionnaires/M’rissey and background through part of the screen and the image of President Kieselbach, etc. Either way, the Legionnaires/M’rissey should be lit by the glow of the screen. Either way, in any way possible, try to make it clear that the Legionnaires are facing and communicating with someone on a screen.

Half Price at TwoMorrows

TwoMorrows is having a sale through the end of September. Among the items marked down:

Best of the Legion Outpost (50% off)

Alter Ego #78 (15% off), Dave Cockrum tribute

Back Issue #14 (15% off), Mike Grell and Dave Cockrum discuss the Legion

Back Issue #22 (15% off), Paul Levitz and Keith Giffen discuss the Legion

Back Issue #33 (15% off), "a star-studded art gallery of Legion of Super-Heroes 1970s fashions"

Krypton Companion (15% off), Superman in the Silver Age including "MARK WAID’s tribute to Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes"

Legion Companion (15% off)

(No, I don't get any commission off this, by the way.)

Teenagers from the Future

"Teenagers from the Future" has got to be the best book containing critical commentary about the Legion since, well, ever. (You can use that as a pull quote, Tim!)

[Full disclosure: that's an Amazon link above, just like all the books listed at the bottom of the left-hand side of this page. If you click it and order the book (or anything) I get something like a dollar credit (4%). If I can just get 27 people to buy one via this link, I can get one for free!]

As Tim said, it will also be available via Diamond, but once it's in Diamond's catalog there's a chance it might get pulled from the bookstores. So order now, or wait and order later!

Here's the press release from the publisher, Sequart. I've linked the author's name to their blog or web page, where I could find it.

Teenagers from the Future: Essays on the Legion of Super-Heroes is now available from Sequart Research & Literacy Organization.

The book, edited by Timothy Callahan (Grant Morrison: The Early Years), sports a foreword by Matt Fraction and an afterword by Barry Lyga. The collection includes the following essays:

• "The Perfect Storm: The Death and Resurrection of Lightning Lad," by Richard "RAB" Bensam [Estoreal]
  
  
• "Liberating the Future: Women in the Early Legion," by John G. Hemry
  
  
• "The Silver Age Legion: Adventure into the Classics," by Christopher Barbee
  
  
• "The (Often Arbitrary) Rules of the Legion," by Chris Sims [The Invincible Super-Blog]
  
  
• "Shooter's Marvelesque," by Jeff Barbanell [Intergalactic Vigilante Squadron]
  
  
• "The Legion's Super-Science," by James Kakalios [The Physics of Super-Heroes]
  
  
• "Bridging the Past and the Present with the Future: The Early Legion and the JLA," by Scipio Garling [The Absorbascon]
  
  
• "Decades Ahead of Us to Get it Right: Architecture and Utopia," by Sara K. Ellis
  
  
• "Those Legionnaires Should Just Grow Up!" by Greg Gildersleeve
  
  
• "Thomas, Altman, Levitz and the 30th Century," by Timothy Callahan [Geniusboy Firemelon]
  
  
• "The Amethyst Connection," by Lanny Rose
  
  
• "Revisionism, Radical Experimentation, and Dystopia in Giffen's Legion," by Julian Darius
  
  
• "Pulling Back the Curtain: Gender Identity and Homosexuality in the Legion," by Alan Williams
  
  
• "Diversity and Evolution in the Reboot Legion," by Matthew Elmslie [Legion Abstract]
  
  
• "Fashion from the Future, or 'I Swear, Computo Forced Me to Wear This!" by Martin A. "MaGnUs" Perez [The Dissector]
  
  
• "Generational Theory and the Waid Threeboot," by Matthew Elmslie
  
  
• "A Universe in Adolescence," by Paul Lytle
  
  
• "The Racial Politics of the Legion of Super-Heroes," by Jae Bryson

This essay collection, from fans and scholars alike, is as diverse as Legion history. No Legion fan or comics scholar should go without this critical celebration of the Legion.

Legal Disclaimer: the Legion of Super-Heroes and related characters are trademarks of DC Comics. This book is not endorsed or authorized by DC Comics.

About the Publisher: Sequart Research & Literacy Organization is a non-profit devoted to the study and promotion of comic books as a legitimate art. This is the organization's third book, following Timothy Callahan's Grant Morrison: The Early Years (solicited in July's Previews) and Tom McLean's Mutant Cinema: The X-Men Trilogy from Comics to Screen.

Chris Sims at The Invincible Super-Blog raves about the book:

Teenagers From the Future, the collection of essays on the Legion of Super-Heroes that I contributed to that also features an introduction by Matt Fraction, is now on sale at Amazon, and I don’t think I’m overstating it to say that it is the single greatest book ever published in the English Language.

Barry Lyga, who wrote the Afterword:

The Legion has a large, faithful (and, some say, mentally disturbed) fan base, as well as a decades-long string of some great comics (and some crappy ones, too -- let's be honest).

Sequart is publishing a special collection of scholarly essays about the Legion and I was asked to contribute the Afterword, which I was only too happy to do.

Matthew Elmslie at the Legion Abstract:

I'm proud of both articles and think they're both worth your time. And then there are all the other articles! Some damn fine work has gone into this book, and no Legion fan should be without it. I'd be highly recommending it even if I had nothing to do with the thing.

No, I didn't contribute anything to the book, though I probably should have.

Teenagers from the Future, the Constitution, and More

Stuff.

Tim Callahan's new book is finally ready (too bad the kinks couldn't be worked out before San Diego, this would have been a perfect addition!). Teenagers from the Future is now available at Amazon.com.

Via RAB at Estoreal:

According to Tim, the book will also be available for order through the direct market in either the October or November Diamond Previews catalog. Tim isn't sure whether the book will still be available through Amazon after it appears in the Diamond catalog, so anyone who wants to be sure of getting a copy without actually going into a comics shop should probably order it now.

I can't believe I missed the various series Siskoid has had going lately. I missed Legion Tryout Week the last week in August, which featured Adventure Comics #247, Tales of the Legion #343 (reprinting Superboy 195 and 201), Tales #339 (reprinting LSH v3 #14), Legionnaires #2, and Secret Origins #46.

This week he's doing the Annotated Legion Constitution. So far he's got Articles 1 and 2 and Article 3, with representative panels demonstrating each of the clauses.

4th Letter has the story of "an audio book based on a book based on a graphic novel," the Books-on-CD version of the novelization of "Infinite Crisis". He's got some interesting sound clips.

When the multiple Earths are flying around space and we see into them, the Legion of Superheroes world gets a cool techno theme.

Hey, there’s a complaint right there. They give us stretched out scenes based on those panels of the Legion world, the Tangent world and the Fawcett world, but nothing with the cowboy world and the Bizarro Earth with all the inhabitants happily strangling each other in the chaos. I feel gypped.

Sadly, no sound clips of the Legion bits (yet).

Another Smallville update

This one from Geoff Johns, at his Myspace page and ComicBloc:

I can tell you with confidence, the season they have planned is easily the most ambitious to date. There are so many twists and turns. And episode 10. Episode 10 is INSANE. My episode is now 11, so it's going to be a hard act to follow, but I'll give it my all. I have to say too, that if they pull off where they're taking Doomsday...I mean, I didn't understand where they were going when they announced that Doomsday had a human alter ego. But it's freaking cool. As hell. And fans of the comics are going to be blown away when everything is actually revealed. It's really pretty spectacular.

Also, the Legion? They are absolutely, 100% on point with the Legionnaires and their relationship with Clark Kent. I can say you'll see an appearance by one of the Legion's better known enemies, but I can't reveal who just yet. More information to come when I can talk about it.

Trivia Quiz #27

First Monday comes early this month. It's a holiday weekend for us USAns but we've got our fingers crossed and our TVs on watching Hurricane Gustav (and not-so-pleasant memories around these parts from Katrina and Rita three years ago).

The theme for this month is the Legionnaire Dawnstar.

1. Name one of the two jobs she had before she joined the Legion.

2. What was the Grand Tour, and what happened at the end of it?

3. What were her parents' names?

4. Who was her roommate at the Legion Academy, and who were some of the other people in the Academy at the time?

5. How did she lose her wings?

6. Who was her partner in the private investigation firm she worked at?

7. Mike Grell designed Dawnstar's look and contributed the cover to her first appearance, but didn't do the interior art (he also did a few subsequent covers). What was the only time Grell got to draw her in interior art?

[Note: Greybird helped out with these, so he is ineligible to answer. Sorry!]